[MD] Food for Thought

[david buchanan]

dmb had said:
...there is a section of Lila where Pirsig puts the distinction between the 
first and second levels in terms of gravity. Life, he says is opposed to the 
laws of inorganic nature. Its seeks to overcome them, exploit them for its 
own purposes. He says life could be defined by that which defies the law of 
gravity and inertia, or something like that. He doesn't mean that life can 
break the laws of nature, but locomotion and flight are ways to get around 
them, so to speak. This is a way to think about what it is that makes a 
level discrete and independent from its parent. In the same way, society 
can't defy or ignore the need for food and sex or the desire for power, but 
it can tame these demands, exploit them for its own purposes. And I'm just 
saying that a similar principle of oppostion applies to the relationship 
between the social and intellectual levels.

DM replied:
Is this MOQ or Nietzsche's Will to power? What do you think DMB?

dmb says:
Both. Like I said, the idea comes out of Lila, but it also fits pretty well 
with Nietzsche, not to mention Darwin, Marx and Freud too. Its a principle 
within an evolutionary theory. And its a theory that is not limited to 
biological evolution but rather applies to everything, as Wilber might say, 
from dirt to divinity.

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