[MD] Food for Thought
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 17 13:35:55 PST 2006
Michael Hamilton said:
I wonder if it'd be better to think of the law of opposition more as a "law
of emancipation". Free speech doesn't really oppose society - you need to
have society to have speech - but free speech mitigates the control
exercised by society. It's emancipation from controlling structures, not
complete opposition to them, that makes room for DQ. Similarly, biological
life can't change the facts of gravity and entropy, but it does refuse to be
a slave to them.
dmb replies:
Right, the idea of freedom was presented as part of this principle a few
days and posts ago. I never meant to imply that this oppostion was
"complete" or that the law of gravity could be destroyed. The idea is simply
that each new level finds a way to overcome the limitations imposed by its
parent level. I mean, opposition is the means of emancipation, if you will.
Michael also said:
Also, I agree with Case that "society is a biological strategy". A pack is
stronger than a lone wolf. Similarly, a society with access to science and
technology is stronger than a society so regimented that it stifles change
and discovery. Nonetheless, I think society can be considered as an
emancipation from the law of the jungle. Loyalty and empathy mean you don't
have to spend your whole life sharpening your claws and looking over your
shoulder.
dmb says:
Well, I think the idea that "society is a biological strategy" is common
sense among educated Westerners but it contradicts the MOQ. I don't think a
pack of wolves is what we mean when we say "society", except as an analogy.
I'd be willing to reconsider this position if it were discovered that wolves
had developed from a religion or built a city or something like that. Until
then I shall continue to believe that pack of animals is just that. I think
Case is a run-of-the-mill SOM materialist. He's being completely sane and
rational but this view is relevant to the MOQ only if its used as an example
of the worldview it seeks to overcome. Or so it seems to me.
Regards,
dmb
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