[MD] Food for Thought

[David M]

Hi Platt

I see. So Einstein invents relativity theory.
We generally accept it, use it, its a social form/pattern.
In a way it has become unconscious. You seem to be
linking intellectual to conscious understanding.
So if a student is learning the theory and finally
understands it and gets it, that would be a genuine
intellectual rather than habitual-social pattern.

David M



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Subject: Re: [MD] Food for Thought


> Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Platt
>> so social patterns are new ideas become SQ?
>> But are there also intellectual forms of SQ?
>> How do we distinguish?
>>
>> David M
>
> Social patterns are collectives of similar ideas. Example: conventional 
> wisdom,
> often hardened into institutions like governments, churches and colleges.
> Intellectual patterns are unique to an individual human being. Example: a 
> "meme,"
> invented by Richard Dawkins. Better example: Dynamic/static Quality, 
> invented by
> Robert Pirsig. When his philosophy becomes as widely known as Plato's, it 
> will
> become a social pattern. Another example: Darwinian theory began as an 
> intellectual
> but is now a social pattern -- intellectual when first created, social now 
> because
> accepted as common knowledge. That's how I define the difference between
> intellectual and social patterns. But, as with all interpretations of the 
> MOQ
> except those by the Dynamic inventor, Mr. Pirsig, himself, I could be 
> wrong.
>
> Platt
>
>
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