[MD] Social Imposition ?

Case Case at iSpots.com
Tue Dec 19 13:17:57 PST 2006


David,

After looking over Sneddon's Thesis I was going to jump on some Whitehead
but decided to revisit Prigogine instead. I don't think I actually finished
Order Out of Chaos the first go around. I am not far into it but I think
what he says is that as a system gets disturbed from equilibrium it
approaches a bifurcation point at which it can jump to a new state. I
suspect that mean there are multiple options.

I think that is exactly what is meant by DQ. When the system moves away from
stasis it is anybody's guess where it will end up. And I suppose you could
say that the new equilibrium state emerges from the disruption.

Pirgogine emphasizes the ideas like entropy and the nonreversability of
time. He says theromodynamics presented the first serious challenge to
classical mechanics. He also makes the point that most of the subjects of
scientific enquiry until very recently were in the classical realm mostly
because those were the calculations and experiments we could perform. We
were like the drunk looking for his car keys under the street light because
that's where he could actually see anything. Nonlinear dynamics changes
this.
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Hi Case

Doesn't Prigogine talk about there being
multiple stable states and is not this
selection of different states without any
'cause' not what we mean by DQ
and emergence?

David M







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