[MD] Social Imposition ?

[David M]

Case

Yes, Prigogine is very useful here.

A world of creation, destruction, chaos, disorder
and just enough order-SQ to do something with,
but it's a little, in a stormy sea of crashing waves.

Let's surf.....

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case" <Case at iSpots.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Social Imposition ?


> David,
>
> After looking over Sneddon's Thesis I was going to jump on some Whitehead
> but decided to revisit Prigogine instead. I don't think I actually 
> finished
> Order Out of Chaos the first go around. I am not far into it but I think
> what he says is that as a system gets disturbed from equilibrium it
> approaches a bifurcation point at which it can jump to a new state. I
> suspect that mean there are multiple options.
>
> I think that is exactly what is meant by DQ. When the system moves away 
> from
> stasis it is anybody's guess where it will end up. And I suppose you could
> say that the new equilibrium state emerges from the disruption.
>
> Pirgogine emphasizes the ideas like entropy and the nonreversability of
> time. He says theromodynamics presented the first serious challenge to
> classical mechanics. He also makes the point that most of the subjects of
> scientific enquiry until very recently were in the classical realm mostly
> because those were the calculations and experiments we could perform. We
> were like the drunk looking for his car keys under the street light 
> because
> that's where he could actually see anything. Nonlinear dynamics changes
> this.
> --------------------------------
> Hi Case
>
> Doesn't Prigogine talk about there being
> multiple stable states and is not this
> selection of different states without any
> 'cause' not what we mean by DQ
> and emergence?
>
> David M
>
>
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