[MD] Social Imposition ?

[David M]

Hi Case/Platt

I think I agree with Case here. I see MOQ as a description
of experience. This is where we start all our thinking from,
there is no choice. Only in the context of experience can we
set about developing other forms of knowledge based on
experience and its contents (including imagination). Science
is just a good method for handling SQ and cornering some
elusive DQ now and then, but we are always feeling and
experiencing alot more quality than we can describe, measure
or model. But in pressing on lies all the fun. And over turning
lots of old description, measures, models, concepts, language, etc.
Every new description lays open new possible aspects of reality.
Some prove more useful, beautiful, meaningful, etc than others.

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case" <Case at iSpots.com>
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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Social Imposition ?


[Platt]
Well, Pirsig offers a consistent explanation of a lot science admits it
doesn't know, like "Why survive?" You pays your money and takes your choice.
My money is on Pirsig when it comes to a fuller explanation of experience
than science offers.

[Case]
You are condemning science for not answering questions it doesn't ask.
Condemning it for not asking would be more appropriate, that's what Pirsig
does. But Pirsig is not attempting anything nearly as ambitious as the
project of science. It is naïve to think he offers a fuller explanation. To
the extent that he does however, he does not attack the validity of science
rather he proposes a refinement in how science is viewed.

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