[MD] Food for Thought

[David M]

Hi Ian & all MOQers

I still think that when individuals
emerge from social-human animals
capable of making incredible changes
we have something radically new kicking
off from what went before. The individual-hero
emerges from the mists of common myth,
and he stands for new values, and he masters
language, and its intellectual possibilities.

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron at gmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Food for Thought


> Dan, Arlo, Case, et al,
>
> I've missed a couple of days of this thread, and I'd like to step back a 
> point.
>
> Good of Dan to post Pirsig's clarification that the levels are
> essentially additive. I hold that view too. However I don't believe
> that in itself removes the need for us to have some working
> distinction of what is being added at each level.
>
> I have no trouble seeing that "life" is added as we step from 1 to 2
> (and the physical continues).
>
> I have no trouble seeing that something "cultural" is added as we step
> from 2 to 3 (with physical and living maintained),
>
> But what I still struggle to accept as clear is any distinction of
> intellect from social. Don't get me wrong, I see a clear gradings of
> the quality of cultural concepts and activities, and can see useful
> social / intellectual labels, but this labelling seems entirely
> cultural. Sets of "principles" "accepted" as being valid, even if
> contingent on better ideas coming along.
>
> Ian
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