[MD] The Edge 2006 Annual Question

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Ian 

On 10 Jan. ian glendinning wrote:

> You said
> "Ian believes my SOL to be (the 4th level seen as) "objectivism",
> while it really is S/O-ism!!!!!!"
 
> I know. An "ism" that makes a distinction between subjects and
> objects, therefore depends on recognition of "objects".
> GOF-Objectivism is GOF-S/O ism - it recognises objects distinct from
> non-objects.
 
A mere distinction between subjects and objects sounds a bit 
platidudinous. It's the realization of an objective reality 
independent of subjective human opinion. Read the below from 
ZMM and you will understand what the SOL is about.

    Now Plato's hatred of the Sophists makes sense. He and 
    Socrates are defending the immortal principles of the 
    Cosmologists against what they consider to be the 
    decadence of the Sophists. Truth, knowledge. That which 
    is independent of what anyone thinks about it. The ideal 
    that Socrates died for. The ideal that Greece alone 
    possesses for the fist time in the history of the world. It is 
    still a very fragile thing. It can disappear completely 
    [...........] Plato condemns the Sophists because they 
    threaten mankind's first beginning grasp of the idea of 
    truth. (ZMM p 368)


An aside here: From this it's clear that the Plato vs Sophist 
struggle is an inter-intellectual one between its own objective and 
subjective camps.  


"Non-objects" is even sillier. In physics there are lots of non-
objects: Energy, forces, fields ...etc. but these are of course as 
objective as any phenomena.           

> Please engage Bo, rather than being dismissive, or I can sympathise
> why Squonk resorts to personal abuse :-)

The wear and tear shows and I hope you'll forgive my style. 

Bo