[MD] the prime directive of the MOQ

[ian glendinning]

Gav, Scott,

Your main assertion ...
"The maximisation of quality experience is the impetus for an authentic, moral,
valuable existence. this is primary."

Completely agreed.

The point Scott picked-up ...
"Awareness without thought" as the basis of MoQ / DQ / Zen etc.

This "difficulty" is the core of so much debate - the words awareness
and thought as part of consciousness in general, and all our
definitional problems. (I'd have no problem stating this as
"Involvement without intellect" say.)

Is this regressive ? - deliberately so of course. No Zen master (nor
Pirsig) is going to recommend everyone spends their (real) life in
that state continuously, the buddhist monks would have no-one to beg
from for a start :-) and there would be precious few experiences whose
quality to maximise. But it does force periodic regression to the
fundamental of all the layers, not just the bilogical, ie the quality
itself.

Good post Gav
Ian

On 1/11/06, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> hey scott.
> awareness without thought is the basis of zen.
> so zen is a regression eh? wonder if bob would agree?
> (that was sarcastically put)
>