[MD] the prime directive of the MOQ

[ian glendinning]

Hi Gav, a couple of comments inserted, whilst we await your follow-up ..

On 1/13/06, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> scott, ian.
> what i am talking about is eminently simple: being
> aware without thinking about what you are aware of. no
> interior monologue passing comments/judgements, just
> awareness of what is, now.
> zen is very simple after all.

[IG] - I agree - that is in fact what I said "awareness without (any)
intellectualising".
That I'm happy with. Zen. Dead simple.
But "consciousness" is a much bigger thing than that - so we may need
some working definitions / terms / bolundaries if you're going to
elaborate on that.

>
> i will post later about consciousness being synonymous
> with DQ, and how an understanding, or better still: a
> *recognition* that consciousness is the ground of the
> self, the imperishable source of all. this is key if
> we are to evolve past the dis-ease of
> ego-identification; which is simply *identification
> with thought-forms*. very few westerners get this at
> the moment. for you to experience a thought at all
> there has to be the ability to experience it, to
> experience anything....this ground is what unites the
> entire universe(s).
>
[IG] - Again, agreed ... it's "the ability to experience" that unites.
But "consciousness" has evloved into a great deal more than that, so
again, let's just be clear which aspects of consciousness we're
talking about.

Ian