[MD] New Age++

[ian glendinning]

Marsha, DMB,

I'm dropping into this thread a bit late ...
"Is everyone looking for enlightenment, should they be ?"

I liken this to the Maslow / Freudian stuff about what drives people.
(Much maligned by those who fear the consequences.)

People strive for what matters to them next, what they can see matters.
If you're starving, food.
If you're cold, shelter.
If you're ignorant, knowledge, etc ...
If you're (feeling sufficiently) healthy, wealthy and wise, then ...
something more.
(The earlier drives just become "hygiene" - you only care about not
losing them, not the positive value of having them. Just like the MoQ
Layers relationship, backstops, latches, no longer the dynamic
qualities of progress.)

Heylighen likened Maslow (and Pirsig), evolution to higher
intellectual fulfillment to Zen "Satori".

We can argue about what "enlightenement" is, but I think the framework
describing the human drive towards it hangs together pretty well on
all fronts; Spiritual and scientific.

Ian

On 1/24/06, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> At 11:01 AM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
> >Once enligtenment is attained is there any going back?
> >Is enligtenment SQ or DQ?
> >Is it a state, a place, an experience, ???
> >Has anyone here experienced it or anything close?
>
> Who could actually answer such questions?  Certainly not I.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Marsha
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