[MD] So cometh MOQ, what next?

[Micah]

Craig,

Wow.

Hitler persecuted the Jews (a religious group), that fact makes it religious
persecution.

The fact that Hitler persecuted people with "Jewish Blood" (faith has no
bloodlines) is further proof of religious persecution.

For a better understanding of Hitler and the Third Reich I recommend you
read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer. It should
help your understanding. You may be interested to find that Hitler planned
to convert all subjects to a new religion where he was to be on par with
Jesus. But you already knew that, right?

By the way #4 four is definitely wrong and #1 & 2 are partially right. Read
the book...we'll talk.

Micah


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[Micah]
> Hitler targeted Jews, not all successful people.

Micah's non-sequitor #1.  Just because Hitler did not persecute all
successful people, doesn't entail he didn't persecute Jews because they
were.

[Micah]
> the fact that Hitler targeted JEWS makes it religious persecution, because
Jews are a religious group!

Micah's non-sequitor #2.  Just because Jews are a religious group, doesn't
mean that was Hitler's excuse for persecuting them.  Proof:  Hitler
persecuted those who converted to or were raised as Christians, but had any
"Jewish blood" (i.e., were descended from Jews).

To recap, for those who do not understand the roots of the Holocost:
1) Envy.  Outlawing commerce between non-Jews & Jews removed the latter from
economic competition.  In addition, the property of Jews was confiscated &
redistributed to non-Jews.
2) Eugenics.  Hitler wanted a pure race, free of "Jewish blood".
3) Scapegoat.  Hitler needed to blame the depression on someone, surely not
the National Socialists.
4) Religion.  Hitler claimed the Jews were responsible for the Romans
crucifying Jesus.
Craig


Hitler blamed the depression on the



This is not rocket surgery
> or brain science!!!
>
> Also, what makes you think "In God We Trust" on US money refers to Theism?
> Could it refer to the god of reason? There's no religious symbol on money,
> but there is the all knowing eye (atop the pyramid). As knowledge is
gained
> a person starting on the bottom of one side of the pyramid rises until
true
> enlightenment is achieved and all is seen on the top of the pyramid, as
> opposed to one side at the bottom of the pyramid.
>
> That's currency I use for trade.
>
> Micah
>
>
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>
>
> Ron,
> See http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhitlerchristian.html
>
> That "the German words, "Gott Mit Uns" means God With Us and appeared on
> many
> Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII" is irrelevant. "In God We Trust"
> appears on all
> U. S. money, even that used by atheists.
>
> The real point is that Hitler's attack on the Jews was not theological.
> Jews in Germany were
> successful & envy of them during the depression was manipulated by Hitler
&
> the National Socialists.
> The Jews were scapegoats, not religious rivals.
> Craig
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