[MD] Julian Baggini interview

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Hi Mark,
The line where Ant says:
"A complete transcript of the  interview doesn't really
exist..." is in the following  post:

http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/2006-October/006636
.html

Ant  is not saying that a transcript does not exist,
he's just saying that one  with the social niceties
included isn't available. I don't know why he  bothered
to mention this, but apparently it's caused you
confusion.
 
Mark 5-11-06: Hello Glenn.
Yes, it has caused me confusion. I wasn't asking about it.
Julian wrote: 'Thanks. I thought Anthony McWatt has posted it on  
robertpirsig.org - or  
at least the full transcript. I suggest you  contact him. Cheers Julian'
 
I asked Anthony why the interview wasn't where it should be, not where  i 
could find it because it wasn't where it should be?
Julian tells me he thought it was already on robertpirsig.org. What gave  him 
that idea? Simple: that was the intended arrangement.

Anthony tells me where it is and provides a link, but why isn't it on  
robertpirsig.org?
Answer: Because it doesn't really exist.
The only transcript i'm interested in is the one that should be on  
robertpirsig.org, and that certainly does exists; Anthony has just provided a  link to 
it.
 
Glenn:
You'll see that higher up in the same post
he puts a link to the  transcript where it's hosted on
TPM. If you follow that link it should lead  you to the
same transcript that Baggini attached to the email he
sent  you.
 
Mark 5-11-06: And this transcript should have been placed on  
robertpirsig.org when Baggini sent it to Anthony.
 
Glenn:
I'm not sure Ant was that clear when he described how
the  interview was conducted. Since Pirsig only
entrusts a few people with his  email address, Baggini
not being one of them, Baggini had to send  the
questions to Anthony, and then Anthony forwarded them
to Pirsig. The  answers were funneled back to Baggini
in the reverse direction.

The TPM Jan 2006 edition had an article by Baggini
about the  interview and it was available on the web by
Jan 11. It stayed up for about 3  months and was
removed when the next edition came out. moq.org links
to  this and that's why it no longer works. The
transcript of the interview  (which was separate from
the article) was also made available on the web at  the
same time and it's still available. Links to it are
available from my  moq site (home.comcast.net/~moq/)
and Matt Kundert's  blog
(pirsigaffliction.blogspot.com/)
 
Mark 5-11-06: I find it incredulous that Pirsig material is available on at  
least two sites which are not MOQ.org or robertpirsig.org.
This interview was born and left to fend for itself without any help from  
the very people one would expect to keep it archived.
For years people have been providing Horse with Pirsig related material dug  
up from forgotten sources which has then been proudly included on MOQ.org for  
the benefit of those, like me, who snap up everything they can get their 
hands  on.
Look how that has changed. Why has it changed in this instance?

Glenn:
In early January, the news page at robertpirsig.org
promised  to put up the transcript of the Baggini
interview "within the week", and  Baggini's main
article noted that the transcript would take up
residence  there as well. January ended with no
transcript being posted and the news  page for
February, which came out before January ended, no
longer included  the teaser. By Feb 3, the
MOQSummary.html page appeared on robertpirsig.org.  It
consisted of excerpts taken from the interview solely
from Pirsig's  side of the discussion. At the time, I
believe this page made mention of TPM  and Baggini in
the introductory remarks, but these were removed at
some  later time.
 
Mark 5-11-06: If these events are correct it would appear there may  have 
been a programme of concealment.
 
Glenn:
Ian, who was helping to mediate a discussion with Ant
at the  time, reported that posting the transcript was
not a high priority item with  Ant and that he had
plenty of other more pressing things to do.
 
 
Mark 5-11-06: Anthony's immediate response to my question was to provide a  
link to the material required. No concealment there.
Anthony's reasons for not placing this material on robertpirsig.org, which  
was my original question, are questionable.
If Anthony was busy, all he had to do was include the article provided  by 
Julian: Anthony stated on the 1-11-06, '...the MOQ Summary... ...did take  
considerable time to prepare...' so any suggestion that he, '...had  plenty of 
other more pressing things to do...,' rather than place the article as  provided 
by Baggini on robertpirsig.org, is daft. That's a bit like saying,  'I haven't 
got time to buy a cake, so i shall bake one instead.'


Glenn:
I hope this clears some things up. You are welcome to
post  this if you'd like.
Glenn

 
Mark 5-11-06: Thanks. You've provided some interesting information.
 
Love,
Mark