[MD] No more SOM and no more money!

[Stephen Hannon]

David M, Micah, Craig, others in this post:

I think we can all agree that some people in the world are extremely
rich, while others suffer in extreme poverty.  I think the original
point to this thread was:

Does capitalism require that some people suffer in such extreme poverty?

If it doesn't than why do some people suffer in extreme poverty?

Regards,
Steve H

On 11/6/06, Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com> wrote:
> David,
>
> You can earn your keep anyway you like, even live off the land.
>
> Yes, Capitalism is a real concept. People organize, systems don't.
>
> I probably mis-understood your plan, I think it was to democratically choose
> the best idea, and have everyone work towards that idea, right? What about
> those that were in the minority, that chose a different idea, will they be
> forced to work in service of the elected idea?
>
> Yes, I live off my capital, like we all do - your labor is one form of
> capital. I'm not confused.
>
> I care about living in a free, and therefore capitalist country,  and the
> USA is neither.
>
> I urge you to try and live by your principles, regardless of their
> popularity.
>
> Micah
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [MD] No more SOM and no more money!
>
>
> Micah
>
> >
> > You are not forced to work for anyone.
>
> DM: I am pretty sure you can't survive without working,
> yes you can choose to starve.
>
> Why are you blaming a concept for
> > human problems?
>
> DM: It's a real system of social organisation not just a concept you know.
>
> >
> > And yes, you are advocating a form of slavery if you force others to work
> > on
> > the "best Ideas".
>
> DM: What??!! I am suggesting we move to democratic decision making rather
> then vested interests making these decision, what on earth are you talking
> about?
>
> >
> > I'm a capitalist, and I'm not a raging success, but that is my fault - not
> > Capitalism's.
>
> You're a capitalist?! So you don't work you live off of your capital then?
> I think you're a bit confused, are you working too hard?
>
> >
> > If you want to change the system, quit playing along. Don't vote. Voting
> > is
> > your moral sanction of a corrupt system.
> >
>
> DM: I know exactly how to change the system, but can't do it on my own.
> Sometimes there's only any point jumping if you are not alone. But you're
> the capitalist Sir so what do you care?
>
>
>
>
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