[MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...

PhaedrusWolff at carolina.rr.com PhaedrusWolff at carolina.rr.com
Sun Nov 12 09:41:15 PST 2006


Marsha -- (to Ham) Huh? Why the fairytale to drag you down? Nothing is 
more real than 
nothing, and besides, I thrive on it.

Chin -- The “fairytail” figure of God, a powerful godly figure sitting 
up on a cloud moving the chess pieces of life is a popular 
interpretation of the words, or ‘Word’ of the bible, but using all the 
words of the bible, as opposed to picking out a few snippets and 
calling this The Word might offer us a bigger picture of God, as I 
offered earlier, and as you many not have received my email on the MOG 
discussion board, -- omnipresent, which would not mean sitting out on 
a cloud somewhere, or even a human type entity. 

The Buddha has also been brought up in some Zen teachings as a Deity, 
maybe because they were jealous of the Christians having theirs, and 
all they had was nothing, or Nothingness? 

I know this sounds silly, but thinking all others are wrong and we are 
the only ones who possibly can be right, which is my problem with most 
Christian churches, might be even more silly, huh? ;o)

Chin

----- Original Message -----
From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
Date: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org

> At 03:29 AM 11/12/2006, Ham wrote:
> 
> >Hi SA and Marsha --
> >
> >
> >Try to focus on what I said.  (I didn't even mention experience.) 
> I'll try
> >to simplify it.  We can NOT KNOW the truth about ultimate reality.
> >Therefore, we have a choice.  We can either believe that ultimate 
> reality is
> >Nothingness -- which is to deny an ultimate reality, or we can 
> believe that
> >it is Absolute -- which is to believe in a primary source (i.e., 
> Oneness,>Essence, Being, or God).  In the theistic language of 
> Pascal, the winning
> >bet is that God is.  What is so difficult about Pascal's wager?  
> He's saying
> >that if we believe in a transcendent God, we have everything to 
> gain and
> >nothing to lose; conversely, if we believe in nothing, we have 
> nothing to
> >gain and everything to lose.
> 
> 
> Huh?  Why the fairytale to drag you down?  Nothing is more real 
> than 
> nothing, and besides, I thrive on it.
> 
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