[MD] What is the intellectual argument about Islamic veilwearing?

[David M]

Hi All

If you veil SQ do you reveal and open your experience to DQ?

An interesting religious gesture?

David M

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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:26 AM
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veilwearing?


> Mark 14-11-06: Hello SA.
> The first consideration is to distinguish between Social patterns of 
> static
> quality and Intellectual patterns of static quality:
> Social patterns are imitated behaviour, rituals and celebrity status.
> Intellectual patterns are symbolic manipulations.
> Clothing such as viels are not functional, they are:
> 1. Imitated rituals,
> 2. Symbolic representations of celebrity status.
> 1 may be thought of as purely static social structure.
> 2. may be thought of as a Dynamic function.
> Any Intellectual objection to these social patterns would be made in order
> to support intellectual patterns over social patterns. However, DQ is not
> patterned, and neither social nor intellectual patterns can contain it.
> So, 2 may be ambiguous; imagine a T-shirt with MOQ or DQ printed on  it.
> 1 is a method of social organisation which controls biological  patterns.
> 2 is a method of celebrity status which organises social rituals and
> behaviour.
> The central deity of Islam is the ultimate controling celebrity which
> subordinates all other social patterns.
> If this celebrity does not sanction the veil there is no requirement for 
> it
> to be worn.
> This celebrity IS the law in Islamic culture.
> Love,
> Mark
>
>
>
> What is the intellectual debate about Islamic
> veil wearing?  So  far, as I've skipped a lot of these
> nude Isalmic veil wearing posts, I  haven't seen what
> the intellectual debate is.  I know you want a  law
> banning veil wearing, but I know law to be on the
> social level, yet, I  also know the making of laws
> occur on the intellectual level with  debates,
> thoughtful approaches with reasons (when it comes to
> western  law).  Any attorney would need an intellectual
> foothold to convince any  judge and jury, and the
> legislatures need a good intellectual argument as  well
> to convince other legislatures.  This is not a simple
> cause I  want it to be a law.  I'm seriously curious as
> to what the intellectual  story is behind this veil
> wearing debate, as I said I didn't read and follow  the
> posts that covered this topic last  month.
>
> Thanks,
> SA
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