[MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...

[David M]

Hi Micah

What does exist for you Micah?

David m


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Micah" <micah at roarkplumbing.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...


> SA,
>
> I would say that "infinite" and "nothing" are both human mental concepts
> that don't exist in reality.
>
> Micah
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of Heather Perella
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:12 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...
>
>
>     I don't want to get into multiple posts with you
> Ham, but I couldn't resist commenting on this one.
>
>     [Ham]
>> Your statement makes sense only in the context of
>> finite existence, and you
>> have qualified it with the words "in our finite
>> terms."  What I am
>> suggesting is that ultimate reality cannot be
>> defined in finite terms, and
>> that it cannot be "Nothing".
>
>     Infinite and Nothing, to me, go hand and hand.
> I'm getting the feeling that you believe that Absolute
> Essence knows everything, is all-knowing thus can't be
> nothing.  If so, this is why I also veer from your
> thesis.  I believe ultimate reality doesn't know
> what's coming next.  Whatever foresight ultimate
> reality has, I'm sure it's more than mine, on some
> kind of larger scale, but I also believe ultimate
> reality has the capability to make something totality
> new, even to itself.
>
>
>     [Ham]
> Essence is not subject to divisions or
>> levels because it is
>> absolute.
>
>     Those levels are not discrete divisions.  The
> levels overlap each other, and at the same time are
> able to be specific enough.  It's the tree is a tree,
> and a tree is a proton, electron, etc...  Different
> levels overlapping each other, dependent upon each
> other.  You can define one level, but never totally
> depend on the definition of one level to completely
> define the universe.  The universe has many
> overlapping levels with specific levels that overlap
> and combine levels to have proton be a tree and a
> proton can be the sun, etc...
>
> Anyways...
>
> SA
>
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>
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