[MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...

[David M]

Hi SA/Ham

I think this may be why I agree with Arlo
and disagree with the way Ham wants to have it.

My experiences of intelligence beyond myself
make me feel that this intelligence goes beyond
the individual but it is as much involved in a journey
and an exploration as we are.

regards
David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...


>     I don't want to get into multiple posts with you
> Ham, but I couldn't resist commenting on this one.
>
>     [Ham]
>> Your statement makes sense only in the context of
>> finite existence, and you
>> have qualified it with the words "in our finite
>> terms."  What I am
>> suggesting is that ultimate reality cannot be
>> defined in finite terms, and
>> that it cannot be "Nothing".
>
>     Infinite and Nothing, to me, go hand and hand.
> I'm getting the feeling that you believe that Absolute
> Essence knows everything, is all-knowing thus can't be
> nothing.  If so, this is why I also veer from your
> thesis.  I believe ultimate reality doesn't know
> what's coming next.  Whatever foresight ultimate
> reality has, I'm sure it's more than mine, on some
> kind of larger scale, but I also believe ultimate
> reality has the capability to make something totality
> new, even to itself.
>
>
>     [Ham]
> Essence is not subject to divisions or
>> levels because it is
>> absolute.
>
>     Those levels are not discrete divisions.  The
> levels overlap each other, and at the same time are
> able to be specific enough.  It's the tree is a tree,
> and a tree is a proton, electron, etc...  Different
> levels overlapping each other, dependent upon each
> other.  You can define one level, but never totally
> depend on the definition of one level to completely
> define the universe.  The universe has many
> overlapping levels with specific levels that overlap
> and combine levels to have proton be a tree and a
> proton can be the sun, etc...
>
> Anyways...
>
> SA
>
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>
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