[MD] What is the intellectual argument about Islamicveilwearing?

[Case]

[Case]
Exactly, freedom means to right to chose wrongly or to change your mind. It
is the freedom to adopt tradition or reject it. While adopting a tradition
does limit the range of acceptable behavior and demands conformity, it also
offers continuity with the past, shared understanding, the security of
community, and the pride of people and place. These are not things people
throw away quickly or joyfully no matter how strange or disturbing they may
seem from the outside.

Love of freedom demands a respect for others.

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Khaled Alkotob
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [MD] What is the intellectual argument about
Islamicveilwearing?

Case

One decides to wear a head scarf, the other puts a bumper sticker that
says "WWJD"

You are right, some of these women will chose to do so.

I remember in my women's study class, when these issues came up, foot
binding and so on, and then you find out that it' s the older women
forcing on the younger ones. It's like a fraternity hazing, you would
think that if they think of the humiliation and degradation they went
through, that they would chose not to pass such 'legacies' on to the
future generations.

Why does that happen?

Is it like physical and sexual abuse, if it's done to you wish to do it
to others?
Is it a right of passage?
Is it something to do so you can belong to the club?

Part of the problem that I see happening now, is that modernity ( which
gets equated with westernization) came to some of these cultures too
fast, and this is a way to hold on to something. Now of course you have
the religious nut jobs out there, who are adding fuel to the fire.
You also have an identity crisis. Just like the teenager rebelling with
purple hair and a ring nose. i would not be surprised, if the next
western rebellion among teenagers would be for girls to wear a burka.
I mean the shock factor of having a nose ring is so passe, but wearing a
burka to your high school prom is a sure way to stir the pot.

Having a Mcdonalds around each corner around the globe may not be a great
idea after all. Look I am not defending what these people are doing, but
suddenly when everyone start looking, acting and talking the same,
someone's has got to want to be different.

Of course when all they have to see of the west is Jerry springer, Borat
and Madona, the are going to go to extreme to protect themselves of such
'evils'.


It's a lot easier to 'protect' your teenage son or daughter by not
letting them go out unchaperoned, than to instill good morals in them. In
a way that's what these people chose to do. Sadly, lots of those
reactions are political.

Yes these women do that by choice, partially to feel that they belong to
a sisterhood and to separate themselves from the men.

Khaled








> [Case]
> I just want to add that I skimmed 20 or 30 sites on this subject the 
> other
> night try to figure out the issue and it was very disturbing. Even 
> trying to
> skim over them I got to much information about this practice. 
> 
> But I also found info on surveys that suggest that if there were a 
vote in
> those countries where it is practiced woman would most like vote in 
favor of
> it. Just like in several Muslim fledgling democracies including one
occupied
> by the benefactor's intent on spreading liberty, people have voted for
the
> candidate most like to institute traditional practices. Women voting 
to
> require themselves to dress a certain way does not sound like
subjugation to
> me. People take their culture and history seriously and it takes  time
for
> those kinds of ideas to change. Forcing such a change seem to be to 
> be a solid plan for spreading freedom. 
>
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