[MD] Nest of Vipers

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Mark]
I think i can see the next step: dmb and Arlo send Mark to the Wendy house while
they sit and have a nice cosy cuzzy up to Anthony.

[Arlo]
Talk about appeals to hysteria. Mark, when in one post you say I am speaking
gibberish, imply that my position is determined by an adherence to a cult of
personality, and that I am becoming incoherent, leaves me to believe it is a
waste of my time to argue this further with you. And now, your recent statement
above belies even so much more.

1.) That "hoax" can be found, it is not censored.
2.) Inclusion of it does nothing to advance the MOQ.
3.) Including it "just because it happened" is an empty demand.
4.) All this speaks more to social and professional jealousy and emotional
disdain for the academy.

If you could convince me of one good reason, besides "its a historical fact it
happened", of why it would be of intellectual value to include it, I too would
ask Ant to consider it. But all I can see, all any one your posts have
indicated, is a desire to see Ant bear social ridicule. There is simply no
other reason it is SO important for a hoax, which is bereft of intellectual
quality, to be mentioned on his site, a hoax that was orchastrated in a
deliberate attempt to ridicule, socially, a group of people.

[Mark]
May i remind you that my response to this statement of yours indicates a total
lack of personal vilification.

[Arlo]
Then what DOES it contain? You've told me several times what it is not, and
Platt has indicated he liked the paper, so give me a summary. Tell me what this
paper DOES hold. As near as I can figure, its an amateurish attempt to recreate
Alan Sokal's mid-90s humanities journal hoax, an attempt to gain social capital
by social denigration rather than intellectual construction (or
deconstruction).

[Mark]
Arlo, Anthony is not the moq. The moq didn't, 'get scammed.'

[Arlo]
So what was the intent of the paper? To ridicule Ant, or to ridicule the MOQ? Or
both?

[Mark]
'Intellectual values include truth, justice, freedom, democracy and  trial by
jury.'

[Arlo]
This is a noble appeal, but it says nothing to the current debate. Many things
happened at the MOQ Conference, I'm sure, that are not on the website. "Truth,
justice and freedom" are not suffering because of it. And, as I've said, the
open dialogic nature of the Internate means that a reasonable conclusion is
that the information will be found. 

[Mark]
In keeping with the hysterical tone language has become hyperbolic.

[Arlo]
If you seriously want to go one discussing this with me, Mark, you'll have to
give this medicine to yourself.