[MD] Suicide vs. Solutions

[ian glendinning]

Hi SA,

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On 11/22/06, Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>      [Ian]
> That's OK by me Marsha, any dialogue is better than
> none...
>
>
>      Is it that simple Ian?  If we have dialogue,
> then to follow the 'versus' of this thread we would
> have no/less-suicide and all/more solutions.

[IG] Clearly it's not that simple, but it was just one sentence. We
seem to be agreeing that suicide is less likely and solutions more
likely, whilst engaged in dialogue. As you go on to say, there is
plenty of scope for individual meditations and other aesthetic
pursuits, not to mention more aim-directed actions too.

So I guess to clarify - dialogue is better than [no dialogue], but
it's not the whole story. Necessary but not sufficient.

Ian

> This
> would follow the morality I stated, which is a goal of
> mine in meditation is quietness.  With quietness I
> experience all possible communication lines open.
> Communication lines freed and pathing across the
> terrain of open-mindedness, clarity, awareness
> unimpeded; and thoughts and art will just
> automatically pop-up into ones view.  Social life goes
> on in this quiet comfort as these 'poping-ups' are
> shared and this dialogue in the quiet comfort will
> have not only art shows, but book reviews, poetry
> speakers, free-thinkers in grocery stores, on and on
> and on... all with meditation clearing the Way.  By
> meditation, I'm saying the wild, trained life of
> practicing quietness induced by relaxation in our
> sittings and walkings.  Tension arises to only
> dissipate in the face of such strength that the quiet
> comfort amidst white noise and other melodies
> meditation encouragers.
>     Is this natural, non-New Age, encourager
> meditation where the practices are 'just sit', 'just
> walk', and 'the simple joys of work'?  All actions
> that require refinement and clarity.  In the quiet,
> thoughts are seen to arise and fall, the clarity in
> these thoughts allow for the Zen art of the lone
> fisherman in a boat with a lot of blank sky
> overwhelming the picture or the flamboyance in other
> sects of Buddhism, such as Tibetan, where color and
> music fills the air.  These all come and pass, and
> when liberated from the mind filling the openness of
> the sky for all to enjoy.  This quiet comfort in
> meditation encouraging jubilee where societies are
> perceived, even by the well-practiced meditator, to be
> societies meditating.  Society meditating...  Have you
> ever heard of singing farmers, dancing hunters and
> gathers, etc...
>
> woods,
> SA
>
>
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