[MD] Sin Part 1

[Platt Holden]

> > [Platt]
> > If we cut and run, freedom and liberty is doomed in Iraq.
> > 
> > [Case]
> > DUH! Like it is guaranteed if we stay?

> [Platt]
> DUH! Like it has a chance if we stay.
> 
> [Case]
> DUH! Like if we move in permanently.

We've been in Germany for 50 plus years. Explain that. So from Iraq you 
want to cut and run?

> [Platt]
> A complete non sequitur. What's with your guilty conscience?
> 
> [Case]
> It is the inverse of you're my country is always right even though you
> hate everything it stands for.

Is? You mean "was." If you want to feel guilty for something you had no 
part in, OK by me. Your "hate" accusation is simply ridiculous. You 
seem to think that your belief in what the country stands for is 
sacrosanct.

> [Platt]
> The poor don't pay income taxes. So freeloaders are already part of the
> system. 
> 
> [Case]
> If they play the economic game they ante up. Why do you think you should
> be able to freeload?

I don't think they should be able to freeload. Under the Fair Tax, they 
wouldn't.

> [Platt]
> Cite the case and the decision.
> 
> [Case]
> Papachristou v. Jacksonville, 405 U.S. 156 (1972) is your Google broke?

Thanks. From Wikipedia: "But the FBI report on crime in the United 
States for 2005 lists 33,227 vagrancy violations." 

> [Platt]
> To defend the nation and to bring criminals to justice, yes. But not to
> force busing of children,  practice reverse discrimination with
> affirmative action programs, restrict campaign speech, prevent
> construction of nuclear electric plants, etc., etc.
> 
> [Case]
> Or when tax dodger try to get a free ride?
> But why do you object to We the people establishing the Values of the
> community? You think General Bullmoose can do it better?

We the people voted for Reagan overwhelmingly twice. Yet you objected.
So you can but I can't?

> [Platt]
> Last time I looked, the wealthy were just as much citizens as the 
> "regular folk." You've heard of equality before the law I presume.
> 
> [Case]
> Nothing in the tax coder violates this.

Wrong. The tax code punishes the rich by making them pay a higher rate 
than the poor. Noting equal about that.

> [Platt]
> Nothing compared to atheistic Nazism and Communism in the 20th century.
> Anyway, your guilty conscience is showing. Anyone would think you were
> personally responsible for Custer's Last Stand. Just goes to show your
> collective mindset.
> 
> [Case]
> So it is just a question of body count again not the mode of thinking
> that matters?

Compared to those atheistic countries, America is the quintessence of 
of goodness. Or don't you think so? 

> [Platt]
> Your attempt to rewrite history doesn't wash. 
> 
> [Case]
> I am not making the effort it is the parties involved, like Tenant and
> Graham who have called out the neocons for being the liars they are. I
> believe the French and Germans were clear about this from the get go.

Tenant and Graham who?

> [Platt]
> What happens on the first Tuesday in November?
> 
> [Case]
> It could be the second Tuesday but that is when we hold elections,
> remember when We the People speak our minds.

Makes me wonder why you are so bitter about Reagan and Bush. Oh, that's 
right, we you agree with them We the People are great, when you don't, 
they are stooopid.

> [Platt]
> You have showed nothing of the sort. I love this country as it was
> intended to be and can be with an MOQ approved Dynamic free market.  So
> I'll stay and work to make it that way. I gather you would like to
> deport all those who disagree with you. 
> 
> [Case]
> You seem to love the distorted fantasies of the racial right it's tragic
> to see you twisted the MoQ into it. Actually I favor open boarders. You
> wouldn't have to even jump the fence to leave if the fear mongers you
> love weren't trying to fence everything including our thoughts.

Twist the MOQ? Do I have repeat what Pirsig wrote about the free market 
in Lila? Open borders? Yeah, right. Let's invite in the terrorists 
tomorrow.  

> [Platt]
> "We the People" elected Reagan overwhelmingly twice. By cutting taxes he
> increased liberty and justice for all, and with Margaret Thatcher's
> help, secured a safer world by defeating Communist Russia. Not a bad
> record I'd say. Is your objection to the Reagan philosophy that
> government isn't big enough?
> 
> [Case]
> As you have so frequently pointed out We the People are wrong a lot. As
> for his role in ending the Cold War, who is rewriting history now?
> Reagan's legacy is the widening gap between economic groups, continued
> dependence on foreign oil, massive debt. You are living proof that
> simple minded feel-good ideas trump honest evaluation just about every
> time.

Dishonest? Simple-minded?. Why do you liberals always end up
insulting those who don't agree with you? Especially white Christians?  

> p.s. Has this gotten Snot/Stew enough for you? I suspect in the next
> round we will be talking about each other's Mommas.
 
Like I said, why am I'm not surprised you have taken this to insult 
level?