[MD] Essentialism and the MOQ

[Laird Bedore]

>> [Laird]
>> We're in the (E|e)xistence definition problem once
>> more. Existence 
>> (capital E) is what I call "the whole of SQ".
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>      ok
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>> existence (lowercase) is 
>> what I call the rationalized, the intellection, into
>> your Existence.
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> [SA]
>     Why use the term existence (lowercase) to describe
> rationalized, the intellection?  I do understand we
> rationalize and intellectualize 'into' Existence.  I
> would say, instead of 'into', that we rationalize and
> intellectualize Existence.  Thus, I omit 'into'.  This
> provides a different meaning that omits any separation
> between intellectual and preintellectual.  One
> experiences separation with intellectual and
> preintellectual or one experiences
> intellectual-preintellectual as one in the same.  This
> eventing both ways is Quality.  This keeps the
> individuals intact, and the same ground of reality for
> these individuals-intact as this is Way.  This last
> sentence is trying to speak mu, which as we know, we
> can't speak mu, yet, we can speak mu.  We speak dq-we
> don't speak dq:  We speak dq is sqing.  We don't speak
> dq is sqing dq:  this is quality.  A?
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[Laird]
You're right, the definition isn't really necessary. "We rationalize and 
intellectualize Existence" says it all. But that very statement implies 
a separation between the intellectual and pre-intellectual (which was a 
key point in my argument). His definition placed Existence as the 
"output" of rationalization and intellectualization, mine placed 
Existence at the "input", so I stuck a compromise-word in there to ease 
the gap. With the compromise word, the statement becomes "We rationalize 
and intellectualize Existence into existence." It does sound circular 
and confusing, so let's go with the shorter one.

Experience is itself a term of rationalization... Would you be okay with 
"one experiences the intellectual", and to use Pirsig's pop-culture 
verbage of the time (the jazz club story), "one 'just digs' the 
preintellectual"? It's the word and meaning of "experience" is hanging 
me up on this one.

-Laird