[MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience, and Religion (SQ) as Power

[David M]

then why do we need MOQ?

David m

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Robinson" <bill_robbie at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience,and Religion (SQ) as 
Power


David M asked dmb:
Never heard of the science theories called big bang or of origin of
life, or
speculation on how why we have physical constants, or the origins of
the
state, etc, all created things, you must be mis-reading me as usual?

dmb says:
Well, either I am mis-reading you or you are mis-writing me. Again the
problem, as I see it, is your ability to communicate. Here, for
example, you
have rather casually mixed the big bang theory and the theory of human
origins with the idea of creation. In our world, these are at odds and
everybody knows it. Creationism is not science. Its religion. Beyond
the
fact that your "sentence" is a crime against grammar and the English
language, it blends opposing ideas about the nature of reality in such
a way
that it begs one of the biggest questions in the Western world. And so
the
very phrase, "science of creation", is just contradictory nonsense.



  Maybe this will help:

  The Big Bang theory has been kicking around as dirt common subject matter 
of Cosmology for over 50 years.

  The physical constants are discussed in high school physics/chemistry or 
in basic a bacic college chemistry and "physics 101" class.

  On the subject of Creation I wouldn't care to look for guidance in any of 
the literature of theology (of any religion Christian, Buddhist, etc. you 
choose)...faith based stuff can't assess that subject matter. Who would want 
to go there?

  Thats why we have scientists with brains, and the scientific method to 
attempt to find answers to such questions. Failing to access or focus on 
science in attempting to answer such questions of creation would be a farce 
and folly to my mind.
  Robbie


david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
  David M asked dmb:
Never heard of the science theories called big bang or of origin of life, or
speculation on how why we have physical constants, or the origins of the
state, etc, all created things, you must be mis-reading me as usual?

dmb says:
Well, either I am mis-reading you or you are mis-writing me. Again the
problem, as I see it, is your ability to communicate. Here, for example, you
have rather casually mixed the big bang theory and the theory of human
origins with the idea of creation. In our world, these are at odds and
everybody knows it. Creationism is not science. Its religion. Beyond the
fact that your "sentence" is a crime against grammar and the English
language, it blends opposing ideas about the nature of reality in such a way
that it begs one of the biggest questions in the Western world. And so the
very phrase, "science of creation", is just contradictory nonsense.

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