[MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience, and Religion (SQ) as Power

[Micah]

DM

Sorry it was a joke. Boy, there's nothing funny about this list.

Micah


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Micah

can't you read? I said 'that much'

David M

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Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:59 PM
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Power


> DM,
>
> You said "This gets the MOQ mixed up with your prejudices. I don't dig
> shitting
> that much but can't do without it."
>
> Only a man full of shit could make such a statement. We all enjoy
> shitting,
> we may not be giddy about it, but the joy of relief is unmistakable.
>
> Micah
>
>
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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of David M
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience,and Religion
> (SQ) as Power
>
>
> Hi DuMBy
>
>> David M, advocate of the flat-Earth society,
>
> DM: That's you, mine's got bumps and curves and is alot more interesting.
>
>> dmb says:
>> Gee - thanks for your concern about how I gotta live, mom. The problem is
>> not about me and a person doesn't need to be an American to know what I'm
>> talking about. Religion is constantly in the headlines throughout the
>> Western world. War, terrorism and genocide is going on right now and
>> religious hostilities play a large role in these horrors.
>
> DM: The major role?
>
> I'm not
>> complaining about my friends and neigbors, you know? They pretty much
>> feel
>> the way I do. Its just a matter of degree, but not disagreement. I'm
>> talking
>> about history and current events and metaphysics, not my personal
>> struggles.
>
> DM: If your ideas don't connect to your life, what's the point?
>
>> I think this mess needs to be framed in terms of the evolutionary
>> conflict
>> between social and intellectual values, not in terms of how we feel about
>> personally.
>
> DM: I agree. In these terms my point is that religion does emerge as
> v.important
> on the lower levels and still has a role on the intellectual level. My
> point
> is
> that these are levels, if you throw away the lower levels when you get to
> the top the whole thing falls down, that's what you appear to want to do.
> The MOQ way to look at this is that you keep the lower levels going from
> your new height, you just look at them differently. You are having some
> sort
> of fantasy that you can do without the lower levels and still live on the
> higher
> level. This gets the MOQ mixed up with your prejudices. I don't dig
> shitting
> that much but can't do without it.
>
>>
>> And think about how odd it is to defend the belief in God. Why not the
>> gods?
>> Why not the gods and goddess and their children and their half-mortal
>> rivals. How about the Titans and Fire-breathing dragons? Where do you
>> draw
>> the line on a thing like that? Why is it not ridiculous to keep hanging
>> on
>> to that one last God? Gods come and go, Dave. We don't worship the Sun
>> anymore
>
> DM: I agree, religion, worship, etc evolves. Chances are there are more
> gods
> to come, that's my point, chances are the values and qualities of religion
> will
> keep re-emerging in new forms, they are there is science rather obviously
> to
> anyone with an eye for metaphors and re-hashed concepts, you know,
> educated.
>
> and in the future the Pope may seem as ridiculous as a witch doctor
>> in a Three Stooges movie. Come to think of it, those Pope clothes are
>> kinda
>> fruity even to contemporary eyes. My point? It looks to me like theistic
>> religion is fading fast already.
>
> DM: I'd say religion is going backwards quite a lot at the moment, and
> failing
> to swallow certain bitter pills that need to be swallowed to move forward.
> You just come across like there never was a counter enlightnment.
>
> I think we are now witnessing its last
>> desperate acts.
>
> DM: Yes, in its current inadequate form.
>
> On some level, I think most people know that its a vestige
>> of the past, obsolete already and they're very upset about that fact. You
>> know, denial and rage are part of the grieving process and, historically
>> speaking, God died just the other day.
>
> DM: Yes, one kind off god, as you recognise above, that makes room for
> new ones. Go and read Don Cupitt's Religion of Being to see the future.
>
>>
>> And on a philosophical level, there are many reasons why theism doesn't
>> work
>> in the MOQ, but now even I am bored by that schpeil.
>
> DM: Even my dog can't hold an old bone like you can!
>
>>
>> Sweet dreams, Jesus freak.
>
> DM:  Not me, you're the one obsessed with Christians, I haven't seen one
> for
> years.
>
>>
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