[MD] are theism and mysticism mutually exclusive notions?

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Case <Case at iSpots.com>:

> > [Case]
> > First of all chance as you are thinking about it does not exist. If it did
> > it would be freedom without restraint which I thought you liked.
> 
> [Platt]
> Perhaps you can explain how I should think about chance.
> 
> [Case]
> You say: "chance means 'I don't know and haven't the slightest idea of how
> to find out.'" I took this to mean the kind of chance the Pirsig talks about
> usually. This would be a kind of primordial chaos or a pure randomness
> unconstrained by any relationship to anything.
> 
> But, what did you mean?

Well, I don't know what you mean by primordial chaos or pure randomenss other
than what I said. In other words, I think it is our lack of knowledge that
prevents us from knowing how a pair of dice will come up, or what horse
will win a race. If we were omniscient, chaos and chance wouldn't exist.
So if science ascribes power to the unknown as they seem to in explaining
evolution, I see little difference between that and belief in a creative God. 

> Case earlier:
> > As for worship, I a fond of giving sacrifice at the shrine of economics
> > located at the end of the line seven at the Super Walmart. The priestesses
> > could use a little work but the ROI is usually satisfying.
> 
> [Platt]
> To each his own. But talk about uncertainty! Anybody who has started a
> business or invests in our capitalistic system knows about the risk of
> losing your shirt. Old Sam happened to make it big by giving the people what
> they wanted -- low prices. God bless him. But for every Sam there are
> hundreds of losers. But, you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and try
> again. That's the American way, and worth a prayer of gratitude now and
> then.
> 
> [Case]
> I only attend services when the wife needs something. I am not all that
> devout. For priestess's who know how to please give me the Temple of Ishtar
> any day.

Not familiar with those priestesses, but assume they are nubile virgins.

Platt


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