[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

[Micah]

Arlo,

Humans exist independently of Dodo birds, or any extinct plant or animal,
for that matter. We could kill all monkeys, and humans would still exist. We
can remove anything, except humans, from reality, and reality still exists.
But reality cannot be shown to exist without humans. Man is the measure of
all things.

Monkeys don't have points of view, humans do.

Arlo is the measure of all things, when he is the only human. When two or
more humans are present, shared objective reality is the measure of all
things. But either way, humans are the measure of reality - not monkeys,
only humans.

People have died, and reality still exists. But when the last human dies,
reality cannot be shown to exist. Reality, in fact, is human. This is
elemental and is Pirsig's philosophical "jumping off point".

Micah



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[Micah]
Rhetorical question, as nothing can be shown to exist independent of humans.

[Arlo]
Nothing can be shown to exist independent of "me". If I kill myself, in an
attempt to see if things exist "independent" of me, what will I find?
Nothing. And, from a monkey's point of view, nothing can be said to exist
independently of monkeys.

[Micah]
Man is the measure of all things.

[Arlo]
Therefore, Arlo is the measure of all things... or perhaps monkeys are.

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