[MD] loose change

[Gene M]

On 10/10/06, craigerb at comcast.net <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:
> > conspiracy theories...are moral in that they are intellectual patterns
of value
>  > trying to assail a social pattern that they perceive as immoral.
>
> But what if the conspiracy theory is fraudulent & so violates intellectual
standards of value?  The end doesn't justify the means.
> Craig

That's sorta what the next couple of paragraphs you chose not to quote were
about. Loose Change is an intellectual pattern of low Quality, thus it
should be ignored. Leave it in a ditch to die, it sucks, and only makes
legitimate complaints of the government seem worse by association. It should
not be supported.

Stella:

> So, if the LC people had tried to oppose the government in another
> question than this, they would be morally right, then? Or, rather, the
> quality of their attempt to topple a social pattern would be moral, as any
> attempt at keeping a government on it's toes would be morally right?


I'm saying that the point they oppose is less important than the method used
to oppose it. To attack an immoral government in an immoral fashion is not
moral. Loose Change takes an immoral route, lying and distorting facts. The
ends do not justify the means, and any opposition that follows this pattern
should be left to wallow in it's own idiocy. Sadly people give it creedence
just because they dislike the government. It is an injury to Intellectual
Quality as a whole and I dislike it.

Stella:

> When I first saw the Twin Towers topple, I thought "This is not right.
> They are not supposed to do that." This was not a "right" as in morally
> right, but a purely technical "structures don't do that if they are not
> deliberately helped to do so" kind of right from my experience as an
> engineer.


It seems to me they Were deliberately helped to do that, by, you know, a
Plane. Somehow it strikes me that a plane to the side is deliberate help in
toppling a building. I'm prepared to accept that a 747 straight through the
wall is enough to take a lot of buildings down.

Even if LC has valid points, they are so well hidden amongst their falified
points that they lose their validity just because it's so hard to sift
through the shit they're surrounded by.

I have no problem with dissent, or conspiracy theories, I have a problem
with the Quality of that dissent. Low Quality dissent is worse than none at
all, because it makes all the dissenters look like jackasses.

-Gene