[MD] A formalised Code of Art
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Squonkonguitar at aol.com
Wed Oct 11 06:54:44 PDT 2006
Hi Mark,
I thought I'd sent this before, but obviously it didn't work, so I'll send
it again.
Mark 10-10-06: I'm not sure everything does aim for DQ.
David responds:I'm pretty sure it does.
Mark 11-10-06:
Hello David.
This is the first time i've seen this. OK...
Degenerate patterns are falling way from DQ. If this is so you may have to
reconsider.
Mark 10-10-06: It appears there may
be evolutionary dead ends that are going nowhere having latched in a
particularly static fashion.
David responds: Yes, but there is always DQ, it is simultaneously
every-where and nowhere.
Mark 11-10-06:
That DQ is as you suggest is not the point. The point is how static patterns
respond to DQ. I'm suggesting they do not always aim for DQ - degenerousy
may be an example. Severe stasis may be said to be a special example of
degenerousy.
These patterned responses to DQ stand in relief to the Code of Art.
Mark 10-10-06: This introduces a potential misunderstanding.
A. DQ as the goal of cosmological evolution, if you will. And...
B. DQ as the goal of the code of Art.
David responds:As you know I think A implies B.
Mark 11-10-06:
No, i don't know. I don't recall you stating this in previous posts.
Mark 10-10-06: Above all, the code of Art is excellence, a term i think you
should
introduce into your formalised description.
David responds:Excellence to me, is just another word for quality.
Everything is quality, even things with a lot of static quality still have quality.
The Code of Art on the other hand says that DQ should be followed.
Mark 11-10-06:
Excellence may not be a synonym for Quality. This is not the Metaphysics of
Excellence.
However, Excellence may be an ontological patterned relationship derrived
from the Metaphysics of Quality.
In my essay, The edge of Chaos, i suggest excellence is a sq patterned
relationship which is part of an ontology of excellence.
Do you see what i'm getting at?
The Code of Art produces ontological patterns of excellence.
Mark 10-10-06: It sounds counter intuitive to state that some Inorganic
patterns are
excellent, but if there is one Inorganic pattern which may be described as
excellent, it seems to be the Carbon Atom. It's mind bogglingly excellent in
it's
ability to bond with other atoms.
David responds: I agree it's excellent/quality.
Mark 11-10-06:
I have to disagree. I think Carbon may be described in MoQ terms as
exceptional relationships between sq patterns.
Carbon, as excellence, is an ontological entity of value. (Coherence)
Gold is an ontological entity of value but it's inert. (Stasis)
Chlorine is an ontological entity of value but it will blow up in your face
at the drop of a hat. (Choas)
Mark 10-10-06: Carbon has lead to DNA which has driven Organic evolution for
Billions of
years against the forces of Inorganic matter.
Excellence increases up the levels until our linguistic patterns no longer
sound counter intuitive when we contemplate social and intellectual
excellence,
but the excellence we are contemplating may have had its analogues in
previous levels.
This view harmonises A and B.
The particularly static stands in a relationship to the excellent as chaos
stands in a relationship to excellence. (But it may be wise to leave that
alone
for the time being!)
David responds: And what do you mean by this last sentence?
Cheers,
David.
Mark 11-10-06:
"The particularly static stands in a relationship to the excellent as chaos
stands in a relationship to excellence." (But it may be wise to leave that
alone
for the time being!)
The edge of Choas and my 2005 Liverpool conference paper cover these.
I've been told in private that these ideas advance the MoQ from Lila and ZMM.
There is no public recognition of this i am aware of.
However, i am not sure they can be included as official MoQ terminology.
Maybe they will when allot of people value the concepts and begin using them?
For my part, an understanding of excellence in MoQ terms utilises stasis and
chaos as counterparts - states to be avoided.
So, the Code of Art aims for a sq relationship which is neither static or
chaotic. I call this relationship Coherence.
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