[MD] Animate vs inanimate

[David M]

Hi Gene

I agree, I think these terms assume SOM and
would be difficult to give them a meaning within an MOQ
outlook. Unless it can be used as a divide between
quality motivated behaviour that is fairly repetitive
like water running down a slope, ice melting in heat,
and more complex behaviour that has a take it or leave
it aspect, like animal movements or eating.

Perhaps there is also a wider question about how much ordinary
language has SOM assumptions built into it.

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene M" <boredandunstable at gmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Animate vs inanimate


>I am totally uncertain what this question is even in reference too. But 
>that
> won't stop me from giving a half assed answer! And maybe we can build up
> something from there.
>
> Patterns exist on each level. The inorganic level would probably be called
> "inanimate" by most. The level of Matter, physics, chemistry, things like
> that. And as inanimate as it is called, it's pretty full of stuff! It's in
> constant motion, moving, changing and shifting. Probably the most unstable
> level frankly. At least, at it's own scale. For us it's dead as dirt.
> Literally.
>
> Beyond that, the biological level would almost certainly be called
> "animate". Since it is where all biological creatures reside. From the 
> lowly
> bacterias to our very bodies.
>
> Those are very SOM terms I find however, they are a way for them to split 
> up
> objective Reality and describe it. I can't even Begin to imagine where to
> place social and intellectual patterns in those two categories.
>
> All in all I find them Extremely unsatisfying and suggest throwing them 
> away
> forever.
>
> -Gene
>
> On 10/15/06, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi MOQers
>>
>> I wonder, in MOQ does the distinction between
>> animate and inanimate patterns hold up? And if
>> so how does the MOQ explain/describe this distinction?
>>
>> Regards
>> David M
>>
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