[MD] The Fringe Factor

[Micah]

Platt,

Nothing can be shown to exist independent of man. 

Why does that anger you?

Micah


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Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Platt,
> 
> If you're dead how will know you neighbor is still alive?

I will see her from heaven. How do you know I won't?  

> Yes, you assume.

And you assume  . . . what? That my neighbor doesn't exist?

> You are wrong, an egoist accepts shared objective reality. Solipsists do
> not, your "see the cat" example is describing a Solipsist.

You are a solipsist. You beleive nothing exists unless you observe it.

> The past is part of human reality. 

How do you know?
 
> A leap of faith is believing in something that cannot be proven. Reality
> cannot be proven to exist independent of man. What is the name of your
> faith? I call it irrational.

You cannot prove you exist. I believe you are a brain in a vat. So
prove you are not. Or, are you?

Platt








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