[MD] The Fringe Factor

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Sat Oct 14 05:04:22 PDT 2006


Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Platt,
> 
> Nothing can be shown to exist independent of man. 
> 
> Why does that anger you?
> 
> Micah

Angry? No, I laugh at you avoiding my questions.

Platt

> 
> -----Original Message-----

> 
> Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
> 
> > Platt,
> > 
> > If you're dead how will know you neighbor is still alive?
> 
> I will see her from heaven. How do you know I won't?  
> 
> > Yes, you assume.
> 
> And you assume  . . . what? That my neighbor doesn't exist?
> 
> > You are wrong, an egoist accepts shared objective reality. Solipsists do
> > not, your "see the cat" example is describing a Solipsist.
> 
> You are a solipsist. You beleive nothing exists unless you observe it.
> 
> > The past is part of human reality. 
> 
> How do you know?
>  
> > A leap of faith is believing in something that cannot be proven. Reality
> > cannot be proven to exist independent of man. What is the name of your
> > faith? I call it irrational.
> 
> You cannot prove you exist. I believe you are a brain in a vat. So
> prove you are not. Or, are you?
> 
> Platt


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