[MD] The Fringe Factor

[Micah]

Platt,

I'm sorry, what question was I avoiding?

Micah

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Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Platt,
>
> Nothing can be shown to exist independent of man.
>
> Why does that anger you?
>
> Micah

Angry? No, I laugh at you avoiding my questions.

Platt

>
> -----Original Message-----

>
> Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
>
> > Platt,
> >
> > If you're dead how will know you neighbor is still alive?
>
> I will see her from heaven. How do you know I won't?
>
> > Yes, you assume.
>
> And you assume  . . . what? That my neighbor doesn't exist?
>
> > You are wrong, an egoist accepts shared objective reality. Solipsists do
> > not, your "see the cat" example is describing a Solipsist.
>
> You are a solipsist. You beleive nothing exists unless you observe it.
>
> > The past is part of human reality.
>
> How do you know?
>
> > A leap of faith is believing in something that cannot be proven. Reality
> > cannot be proven to exist independent of man. What is the name of your
> > faith? I call it irrational.
>
> You cannot prove you exist. I believe you are a brain in a vat. So
> prove you are not. Or, are you?
>
> Platt


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