[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

Heather Perella spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 23 14:03:43 PDT 2006


Hello Ron,

     [Ron]
> 1.  WELL, I THINK YOUR'RE GETTING A BIT PARTICULAR,
> I THINK MOST EVERY
> ORGANISM RESPONDS TO STIMULI...PAIN, PLEASURE...
> AND FORMS MEMORY PATTERNS AS A RESULT, EVEN THE MOST
> BASIC LIFE
> FORMS...SURE IT'A MATTER RELATIVITY ON WHATS GOOD
> I THINK LIVING ORGANISMS RESPOND POSITVELY TO LIFE
> NUTURING STIMULI AND
> ADVERSLY TO LIFE DETRIMENTAL STIMULI..
> SO "NOT GOOD" BEING DEATH, PAIN,

     What's Death?  Isn't it just change - a dynamic,
undefined quality?  Pain is relative, as some can
tolerate more pain than others, and yes, I would avoid
pain.  Yet, I'm not really sure why pain is here. 
Buddha said he found a way out of 'all life is
suffering', but yes, this pain is still here and may
not be good, but thankfully all life is not pain. 
I've never really understood Buddha's 'all life is
suffering', since I've experienced joy, at times.  So,
I guess your saying this experience of ours boils down
to an experience of either living-no pain and
death-pain.  Sure, but the earth and sky isn't this
bare bones, right?

     [Ron]
> 2. ACTUAL REALITY IS THE NATURAL EXISTENCE OF THE
> UNIVERSE, THE METAPHOR
> IS THE MINDS PERCEPTION OF IT. THE IDEA IS TO STILL
> THE MIND
> LIKE THE FACE OF A POND TO ALLOW A MORE ACURATE
> REFLECTION OF THE
> UNIVERSE OR "REALITY" ..BUT TO REALLY KNOW ACTUAL
> REALITY, SOME WOULD
> ARGUE A LOBOTOMY WOULD BE IN LINE. TO BE MORE LIKE A
> SMALL CHILD AND
> LIVE IN THE NOW AND HAVE NO PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS
> ABOUT ANYTHING.

      Why not have metaphors that are actual reality,
thus, this unavoidable perception that a human being
has will be actual reality?  Reality can be however
you perceive reality to be.  I don't think we ever get
around that idea of reality.  Do you?  I mean you gave
me all kinds of ways and ideas that people share that
is to show reality.  Our thoughts and/or no-thoughts
shape ways to perceive reality, don't they?

     [Ron]
> What is non-existence?
> DEATH, AS CLOSE AS I CAN DEFINE.

     As I've said above, isn't death just change, an
undefinable dynamic quality?  Thus, I may leave death
undefined and notice the quality that it is.  I don't
really think I can define death and give it a meaning
or definition that says it's non-existence.

Thanks,
SA

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