[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

[Case]

And as the Firesign Theaters guys would say:

"There's a seeker born every minute."

But seriously Ron why are you SHOUTING?

Case

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of LARAMIE LOEWEN
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You don't want to confuse the metaphor with reality.  But you also don't
want a 
poor metaphor.  Too many seekers aim for merely experiencing that intangible

"quality" of the mind, and not developing a consistent metaphor.  In the
end, 
the metaphor is what matters.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Kulp<mailto:RKulp at ebwalshinc.com> 
  To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org<mailto:moq_discuss at moqtalk.org> 
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters



  is there evidence of animals holding concepts independent of man?


  I WOULD THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE "NO"  ONE WOULD THINK HUMAN CONCEPTUAL
  ORIGINS HAD ITS BEGINNINGS RIVALING THAT OF MODERN PRIMATES
  THE MIND SEEMS TO HAVE AN INTANGIBLE "QUALITY" THAT SEEMS NIETHER TO BE
  DEFINED NOR MEASURED
  BY ANY PHYSICAL OR CONCEPTUAL MEANS.
  THE MINDS FIRST AND ORIGINAL COGNITIVE PROCESS SEEMS TO BE DETERMINING
  WHAT IS GOOD AND 
  WHAT IS NOT GOOD. WHEN DEVELOPED THIS SEEMS TO ORIGINATE AND
  MANIFEST ITSELF AS ANALOGIE AND METAPHOR, DEVELOPING INTO "NAMING"
  AND COMMUNICATIVE LANGUAGE. CREATING A MICROCOSIM USED TO UNDERSTAND AND
  COPE WITH THE SURROUNDING
  ENVIRONMENT. THE MISTAKE IS CONFUSING THIS "METAPHOR OF THE MIND" WITH
  ACTUAL REALITY 
   
  WHAT SEEMS TO SEPERATE THE HUMAN MIND FROM OTHERS IS THE ABILITY TO
  CONCIEVE OF ITS OWN
  NON-EXISTENCE.

  ANY INPUT? 
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