[MD] extricating MOQ from SOM

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Wed Oct 25 11:50:13 PDT 2006


Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:

See below. Arlo glorifies the 19th century American Indian. And they call me a
conservative. :-) 

> [Arlo]
> Allow me to also convey welcomes, Ron. If you search the archives, you'll 
> see many of us have long argued for and appreciated Pirsig's illuminations 
> on (and from!) Native American understandings. That he chose to end Lila 
> with a reference to Native American culture emphasizes the value we can 
> attain from revisiting the worldview of the "Indian". Similarly, he writes 
> in a letter to Ant, " A famous Japanese Zen Master [Dainin Kategiri Roshi] 
> who read ZMM told me he thought it was a nice book but he didn't see 
> anything unusual in it. He was quite puzzled at its success. Another 
> Japanese tourist to America said, 'This book is not interesting to Japanese 
> people because we already know all of this.'" There are some that not  only 
> seek to silence, but ridicule, the Tao/Zen/Indian centrality to the MOQ. 
> But know that this is only a few. Most appreciate, and I for one advance 
> that the only way forward is through this core. The best summation of 
> Western, SOMist culture was given in ZMM, "[man] had built empires of 
> scientific capability to manipulate the phenomena of nature into enormous 
> manifestations of his own dreams of power and wealth...but for this he had 
> exchanged an empire of understanding of equal magnitude: an understanding 
> of what it is to be a part of the world, and not an enemy of it." If that 
> describes an SOMist culture, then the path away from SOM must be to move 
> towards "being part of the world", something the Taoists, Zenists (Zenites? 
> Zennies?), and Native Americans understood all along.
> 
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