[MD] Chaos Crystallised.

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Fri Sep 8 12:41:12 PDT 2006


Dear Mark,

I wanted to write to say in this case my silence does not  represent 
applauding and shouting BRAVO.  I am thinking.  During  your 
discussion with Ham, I went back to reread your Conference and MD  
papers.  In both cases I felt something was missing.  In this  case, 
'Chaos Crystallised' intuitively feels correct.  I do not have  the 
background to make a scientific or mathematical comparison and my  
knowledge of philosophy is limited, so I am using life  
experiences.  I hope I will be reading more.

Marsha

Mark: Hello Marsha.
Thanks for your support.
I think you are right - there was something missing before which may now be  
getting better?
 
The phrase, 'Fractured Chaos' hit me out of the Blue while i was thinking  
about how to solve Ian's (psybertron) unhappiness with 'Coherence as  
equilibrium' and 'Coherence as far from equilibrium.' There is a difference i am  sure, 
and finding a plausable root differentiating basis lead me right back to  the 
root of chaos itself - pre-inorganic patterns.
If we invent a basis for chaos leaping via a Dynamic change into order and  
call the initial order 'self similar harmonic,' then the SSH is a new, 'music 
of  the spheres'. Perhaps we should think of it as, 'The Music of the values?'
'Fractured chaos' changed to, 'crystallised Chaos' because it felt  better to 
use the crystal metaphor Pirsig used in ZMM.
After all, i WAS thinking about far from equilibrium states and that's what  
Pirsig was talking about here also:
 
'Seed crystal. A powerful fragment of memory comes back now. The  laboratory. 
Organic chemistry. He was working with an extremely supersaturated  solution 
when something similar had happened.
A supersaturated solution is  one in which the saturation point, at which no 
more material will dissolve, has  been exceeded. This can occur because the 
saturation point becomes higher as the  temperature of the solution is 
increased. When you dissolve the material at a  high temperature and then cool the 
solution, the material sometimes doesn’t  crystallize out because the molecules don
’t know how. They require something to  get them started, a seed crystal, or 
a grain of dust or even a sudden scratch or  tap on the surrounding glass.
He walked to the water tap to cool the solution  but never got there. Before 
his eyes, as he walked, he saw a star of crystalline  material in the solution 
appear and then grow suddenly and radiantly until it  filled the entire 
vessel. He saw it grow. Where before was only clear liquid  there was now a mass so 
solid he could turn the vessel upside down and nothing  would come out.
The one sentence "I hope you are teaching Quality to your  students" was said 
to him, and within a matter of a few months, growing so fast  you could 
almost see it grow, came an enormous, intricate, highly structured  mass of 
thought, formed as if by magic.' (ZMM. ch. 15)

The Music of values crops up in music (no surprises there)! and art and  
literature - it's a metaphor with a basis in experience. Creative people find  
rhythm and music in literature as well as Mathematics.
 
But the music of the values is not deterministic. The initial SSH is  
evolving.
So, you can paint music cos it's all vibrations of various levels.
I reckon you feel that anyway Marsha.
Or am i off the track?
 
Love,
Mark
 
P.S. Can anyone remind me of the name of a famous <British?>  scientist who 
gave up conventional research because he became convinced Music  would provide 
the answers to Physics?



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