[MD] Crystallising Chaos.

[Jos Laycock]

Perhaps, but Platt, this argument implies an objective reality, no?
You suggest that our language defines chaos as any state of being with 
complexity beyond the perceptive abilities of the observer?

I would suggest that it is "safer" to agree upon a conceptual difference 
between observed events that appear chaotic and the implicit definition we 
use for what the concept means.

In the MOQ I see most things as objectively unknowable (not definable as 
absolute truths) to any observer, so chaos is hardly unusual in that 
respect.

Now I come to think about it its a rather definition defying concept in SOM:
As soon as you desribe it as something you give it form and as a concept it 
becomes patterned, ceasing to be chaotic.
Ie all definitions, are by definition wrong, now where have I heared that 
before?



>From: "Platt Holden" <pholden at davtv.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Subject: Re: [MD] Crystallising Chaos.
>Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:35:15 -0400
>
>I haven't been following this thread as closely as I should, so if this
>question has been asked and answered, please refer me to the
>appropriate post.
>
>The question: Instead of chaos being thought of as a state of being,
>rather could it be defined as whatever is too complex for us humans to
>know?
>
>The following from Case seems to suggest the answer may be yes.
>
>"As the rain falls faster the osprey flies home to nest, the
>grasshoppers hop away satisfied and the surface of the post becomes
>INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO CALCULATE. Harmonies are broken.
>Chaos ensues." (caps added for emphasis)
>
>Beyond our ability to calculate, chaos reigns. In other words, chaos is
>another word for our ignorance. What appears to us as chaos may indeed
>by finely structured, organized and purposeful. We're just too limited -
>- physically, mentally or spiritually -- to perceive it.
>
>I wonder. When it comes to chaos, we may be like the fish who when
>asked how he liked the ocean answered, "What ocean?"
>
>Regards,
>Platt
>
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