[MD] Ham thinks the MOQ is a form of phenomenalism now called Death Path

Peter Corteen psigenics at googlemail.com
Sat Sep 16 00:03:10 PDT 2006


Hi Heather,

your post left me feeling better.
It seemed spontaneous but considered at the same time.

I am not sure I understood all your meaning, but it is good to evoke enquiry
in that way with suggestion.

Small deaths and reincarnation in this life; each breath we take crosses the
Bardos.
I join you on your path of death to Ham's concoctions.

Must re-read Chapter 32 too.

Peter

On 13/09/06, Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Marsha and Ham,
>
>      [Marsha quoting Pirsig]
> > While sustaining biological and social patterns
> > Kill all intellectual patterns.
> > Kill them completely
> > And then follow Dynamic Quality
> > And morality will be served."
> >                                (Lila, Chapter 32)
>
>
>      Marsha, every time you quote this, I feel good.
> This is an excellent summation of how I behave.
>
>      [Ham]
>      And, while evolution may be of interest to the
> biologist, just as the record of societal development
> is to the historian, such transitional
> perspectives have no significant relevance to
> Essentialism.
>
>
>      This is just another showing, Ham, of how your
> thesis narrows in scope, or does it?  It doesn't
> account for biology and society.  Yet, as you said and
> I quote you, "'Happenings upon the earth' occur
> constantly, and always have, but commenting on them
> does not happen to be my philosophical purpose."  And
> yet, the earth is here, and your thesis can't include
> it?
>      Also I quote you again Ham as follows:  "I'll
> have to go outside tomorrow and see if there's any
> society left."  And yet, you will see society, and
> your thesis can't include it?
>      These are two huge apparent chunks of life that
> we humans encounter daily and nightly, and your thesis
> shines no light on them.
>
>      Now, this is why, Ham, I've taken the Death Path
> when I read your comments.  Your thesis kills a lot of
> stuff, in other words, your thesis treats certain
> 'things' as if they aren't even here.  This approach
> happens in Hinduism.  Buddhism tends to not be very
> attached to the earth and society, too.  Even Christ
> thought he had to be sacrificed to get the results he
> was looking for, and so we have the Death Path.
>
>      So, Ham, I'm not sure if your thesis is
> narrow-minded, or so wide in scope that what may be
> big to our eyes, is actually small when in light of
> the Death Path.
>
>
>      Kill, Kill, Kill, and be the Lord of Death and
> see all is a sacrifice.  This is the rhythm and strut
> we walk on the Death Path.  Kill! Kill! Kill!
>      (I imagine a beat harmonizing in the last
> sentence.)
>
>      And this is when being too literal is immoral.
> This is why art and metaphor have such splendor and
> flexibility in talking about what is happening to All
> here in this universe.
>
> Thanks,
> SA
>
>
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