[MD] Flying Spaghetti Monsters

[Heather Perella]

Micah,

     You've got to do a lot better than just ignore a
dialogue.  Platt asked you proper questions for this
apparent debate, and Micah you totally ignored most of
his questions, except for the extension discussion on
baseball.  The real meat of the dialogue was set forth
in this post by Platt below.  Don't answer with
obvious, due to what is obvious for some, may not be
obvious to others.  I can't see if your black or not,
so, don't make this a race issue.  Put all the
intellectual cards on the table and play.

SA



> Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
> 
> > Pholden,
> > 
> > Fascism:
> > A system of government marked by centralization of
> authority under a
> > dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls,
> suppression of the opposition
> > through terror and censorship, and typically a
> policy of belligerent
> > nationalism and racism.
> > 
> > 
> > The USA has stringent socioeconomic controls,
> 
> Like what?
> 
> > is clearly nationalist
> 
> Define nationalist.
> 
> >and
> > racist,
> 
> What evidence?
> 
> > suppresses opposition by labeling dissenters as
> terrorist or
> > unpatriotic (nationalism again)
> 
> Examples?
> 
> > while manipulating the media;
> 
> How so?
> 
> > and W has and
> > is continuing to consolidate power in his
> presidency (dictatorship).
> 
> What evidence?
> 
> > While
> > we are not completely or strongly fascist, we are
> clearly a fascist state.
> > The question isn't - are we a fascist state?, but
> how did we let this happen
> > and can we reverse it. I guess the first step is
> to recognize fascism and to
> > stop defending a fascist government by saying -
> "define fascism".
> 
> A diatribe of unsupported accusations. Can't you do
> better? 
> 
> > By the way, the USA did not win the Baseball World
> Championship (again) - it
> > was shown on ESPN until the USA was knocked out
> and yes MLB players were
> > involved.
> 
> Try an entire season from April to October, not a
> one shot series.
> 
> > Defending freedom implies attack, and the USA has
> suffered only one
> > meaningful attack, 9-11-01 (and more Americans die
> in auto accidents in one
> > month).
> 
> Are you kidding? Pearl Harbor was not an attack? You
> don't believe in mutual
> defense agreements where we come to the defense of
> our allies like in WW II,
> Korea, and Vietnam? You don't consider the bombing
> of our warship an attack?
> 
> > We don't defend, we attack. And speaking of
> attack, your freedom is
> > under attack by your own government. Clinton used
> "Child pornography" and
> > "drugs" to attack freedom (1995 Telephony Act) and
> Bush uses "terrorism"
> > (torture, secret courts, etc.). And attacking
> others is nothing to be proud
> > of.
> 
> My freedom under attack? Where do you pick up this
> stuff?
> 
> > That mad rush of people immigrating to the U.S.
> you always hear about...I
> > believe that is called propaganda. The number of
> people that don't immigrate
> > here or those that don't even consider it, puts
> the immigration trickle into
> > perspective.
> 
> So 20 million illegals is a "trickle?"
> 
> Where do you get your information, from moveon.org?
> Noam Chomsky?
> 
> 
> 
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