[MD] Flying Spaghetti Monsters

[Stephen Hannon]

[Platt]
I agree with SA's response.

[Steve H]
I agree with my response to SA's response.

Regards,
Steve H

On 9/23/06, pholden at davtv.com <pholden at davtv.com> wrote:
> Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
>
> > Pholden,
> >
> > We agree on Parecon, with you restating the obvious, that it is bad for the
> > individual. The intellectual existence being about the individual, whereas
> > the social is about the collective.
>
> Agree. In fact I have argued that Pirsig's intellectual level would be better
> called the individual level.
>
> > I'm not a libertarian, I'm a Pirsigian Objectivist. A man's philosophical
> > jumping off point will tell you where he lands on all issues, or falls
> > depending on the crystallization of the jumping off point.
>
> I'm not sure what a "Pirsigian Objectivist" is. Perhaps you will elucidate. Since
> you said your views came closest to those of the Libertarian Party, I assumed you
> would qualify as a Libertarian. My mistake. Let's just say  that our
> philosophical jumping off points appear to be in the same neighborhood.
>
> > Yes, we are all very afraid in a America, but I say let our enemies have Los
> > Angeles and see how they fare, hell we can't control L.A. But I agree, the
> > invasion force waiting just outside our borders is quite scary. Borders? Can
> > you define nationalism?
>
> Borders is a good place to start in defining nationalism.
>
> > No evidence of racism? You must not be black. If you could choose your race,
> > and we can't, would you choose to be black? I won't define "black" for you,
> > refer to the definition of obvious.
>
> Are you assuming I'm not a person of color? Isn't that somewhat racist itself?
>
> > Baseball is not a team sport that requires time spent practicing together to
> > be a good team, it's the most individually oriented team sport. As a former
> > professional athlete (hockey, baseball) you'll have to take my word.
> > Professional athlete defined as; an athlete under financial contract to
> > perform on a team in the major league farm system.
>
> If it doesn't require time practicing together, what is spring training for?
>
> > Suppression is not always characterized by a person with a gun to their
> > head. It could be character assassination of someone holding differing
> > views, which can be effective in preventing a message from being heard or
> > taken seriously. But then ideas are scary, especially those we don't agree
> > with - best they are not heard. Stay the course, don't cut and run to a new
> > idea or viewpoint, that would be unpatriotic and supportive of the enemy,
> > and after all - this is a struggle between good and evil, so you're either
> > for us or against us and we're guided by god.
>
> To me suppression is more likely political correctness whereby if you say
> things that someone might find offensive, you are punished by losing your
> job, getting kicked off campus, or forced to attend "sensitivity" training,
> i.e. brainwashing. Or take Islamic reaction to the Pope's remarks including death
> threats. That's suppression.
>
> > This has been fun and I assume you are just playing with me, your caricature
> > is hilarious.
>
> You, like Arlo, can engage in personal attacks if you wish. But, I'm surprised.
> I'm also surprised you didn't answer the questions I asked in my previous post.
> But, that's your choice.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
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