[MD] Flying Spaghetti Monsters

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Pholden,
> 
> We agree on Parecon, with you restating the obvious, that it is bad for the
> individual. The intellectual existence being about the individual, whereas
> the social is about the collective.

Agree. In fact I have argued that Pirsig's intellectual level would be better
called the individual level.

> I'm not a libertarian, I'm a Pirsigian Objectivist. A man's philosophical
> jumping off point will tell you where he lands on all issues, or falls
> depending on the crystallization of the jumping off point.

I'm not sure what a "Pirsigian Objectivist" is. Perhaps you will elucidate. Since
you said your views came closest to those of the Libertarian Party, I assumed you
would qualify as a Libertarian. My mistake. Let's just say  that our
philosophical jumping off points appear to be in the same neighborhood.   

> Yes, we are all very afraid in a America, but I say let our enemies have Los
> Angeles and see how they fare, hell we can't control L.A. But I agree, the
> invasion force waiting just outside our borders is quite scary. Borders? Can
> you define nationalism?

Borders is a good place to start in defining nationalism.

> No evidence of racism? You must not be black. If you could choose your race,
> and we can't, would you choose to be black? I won't define "black" for you,
> refer to the definition of obvious.

Are you assuming I'm not a person of color? Isn't that somewhat racist itself?

> Baseball is not a team sport that requires time spent practicing together to
> be a good team, it's the most individually oriented team sport. As a former
> professional athlete (hockey, baseball) you'll have to take my word.
> Professional athlete defined as; an athlete under financial contract to
> perform on a team in the major league farm system.

If it doesn't require time practicing together, what is spring training for?

> Suppression is not always characterized by a person with a gun to their
> head. It could be character assassination of someone holding differing
> views, which can be effective in preventing a message from being heard or
> taken seriously. But then ideas are scary, especially those we don't agree
> with - best they are not heard. Stay the course, don't cut and run to a new
> idea or viewpoint, that would be unpatriotic and supportive of the enemy,
> and after all - this is a struggle between good and evil, so you're either
> for us or against us and we're guided by god.

To me suppression is more likely political correctness whereby if you say
things that someone might find offensive, you are punished by losing your
job, getting kicked off campus, or forced to attend "sensitivity" training,
i.e. brainwashing. Or take Islamic reaction to the Pope's remarks including death
threats. That's suppression. 

> This has been fun and I assume you are just playing with me, your caricature
> is hilarious.

You, like Arlo, can engage in personal attacks if you wish. But, I'm surprised.
I'm also surprised you didn't answer the questions I asked in my previous post.
But, that's your choice.

Platt
 



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