[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

[Laycock, Jos (OSPT)]

Hello Platt
These were intended to be examples of moral codes applicable at all the
different static levels, you've chosen to assign them to different levels
which misses the point, my fault for being vague: 

Any event at any level of course permeates all those beneath, entities can
though be defined by the highest level at whih they are manifest. Do you
agree?

Drinking bleach can be seen as a metophor for making a bad decision that
breaks a moral code of the inorganic values system. Please feel free to pick
a different one that we can agree on.
Point is, that breaking it is a free choice that is available, and you will
be punished for it by the destructive oxidation of a range of the mollecules
that make up your inorganic pattern.
Sleeping with your sister breaks a biological moral code and you will be
punished by your progeny having limited diversity and becoming prone to
genetic disease. 
Passing a red light breaks a cultural moral and the punishment is likely to
be a fine.
Beoming irrational and denying the facts or logic that you are not napoleon
breaks an intellectual moral code and you will be punished for it with
"correction" likely applied by the intellect of a psychiatrist.



 

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> Sent: 27 September 2006 21:11
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters
> 
> 
> Quoting "Laycock, Jos (OSPT)" <Jos.Laycock at OFFSOL.GSI.GOV.UK>:
> 
> > You seem to be championing the celebrity?
> 
> I champion individual accomplishments.
> 
>  
> > These individuals were products of societies, all were 
> creative whilst
> > standing on the shoulders of others.
> > Beethoven did not invent the chomatic scale, Rembrant was 
> taught to paint in
> > a school, and Einstein did not pluck his ideas out of thin 
> air without
> > extensive reference to existing literature.
> > The renaissance period produced great art, The industrial revolution
> > produced great thinkers.
> 
> Yes, all these individuals were born into a society and 
> learned from it as does
> everbody else. But their accomplishments were unique and of 
> extremely high value
> to society.
> 
> > Any and all constrains can be disobeyed and all may be 
> subject to change.
> > Be they inorganic, biological, social or intellectual. 
> > Disobeying moral codes at all levels is imoral, we are free 
> to make bad
> > descisions of course but does being free to drink bleach, 
> sleep with your
> > sister, ignore a red light or belive that you are napoleon 
> really have any
> > great value. 
> > Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should
> 
> You cannot escape from the fact that if you drink bleach you 
> will get sick and
> possibly die. That's biological reality. Sleeping with your 
> sister is a personal 
> choice as is running a red light. Believing you are Napoleon 
> usually indicates
> something is biologically wrong with the chemistry of your 
> brain. There's
> nothing you can do about the morality of the first and last 
> biological values.
> You can be punished for the middle two examples involving 
> social values.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> >
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