[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

[ian glendinning]

Craig, Jos, et al ..

Not sure of the sequence of argument here, but Jos (?) is making the
points (1) and (2) I keep making ...

Definitions in language have limited value. The make static what
should be dynamic. They should only be held static for any immediate
practical value. Understanding meaning and processes is much more
important than defining things. (As we keep seeing, some things turn
out to have illogical definitions - Freedom is defined by limits to
freedom ... is the current example.)

Ian

On 9/28/06, Laycock, Jos (OSPT) <Jos.Laycock at offsol.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
> Stimulating yes, but damaging to the status quo nonetheless. As mentioned
> the type of change you allude to stems from intellect so is moraly
> jutifiable in overriding existing cultural patterns. The cultural patterns
> themselves will not see it as positive however. To the culture it is damage,
> to the intelectual it is a stimulant.
>
> 1) Attempting to state what is good is futile, when we recognise that a full
> definition defies static explanation.
> 2) Good is dynamic
> 3) The absolute nature of static patterns (if that is even a valid concept)
> are not visible to us, they are described by language in terms of shared
> analogies, it is unlikely that these analogies are "accurate"
> representations of the underlying paterns.
>
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> > [Jos]
> > > one who disagrees with the cultural viewpoint...is a
> > damaging influnece on that culture.
> >
> > I heartily disagree.  Disagreeing with the viewpoint of a
> > culture is one of the most stimulating things one can do for it.
> >
> > > 1) Stating what is good requires a static description.
> >  > 2) Good is dynamic.
> >  > 3) :. All static definitions are innaccurate.
> >
> > I could see if you tried to argue that language is dynamic,
> > therefore all definitions are inaccurrate.  But how does 3)
> > follow from 2)?
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