[MD] Art of Value

[Akshay Peshwe]

Mr Glover:

There's an interesting Chinese proverb saying that the way a person lives
after death is by his legacy. The MoQ proves this so brilliantly. The legacy
is a person's static patterns leave over other patterns are the way those
static patterns survive. Within, say, social patterns, I believe there are
types of sub-patterns. There are patterns for envy, for affection, for
flattering, et cetera.

A neater way to classify these patterns can be astrology: each person
consisting of fire, earth, air, water patterns of different values. When an
ancestor leaves envy against the opposite tribe, he's imposing a particular
set/configuration of patterns onto another person's patterns.

By the way, the phrase "life after death" is a contradiction speaking
strictly logically.

What do you think?

-- Akshay

On 4/2/07, Dan Glover <daneglover at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone
>
> Art doesn't have value. If it did, everyone would agree on it. They don't.
> Lila doesn't have Quality. Quality has Lila. Art doesn't have value. Value
> has art. When you see this then everything becomes art. Life and death are
> acts of art. Painting a painting is art but so is motorcycle maintenance
> and
> climbing mountains and sailing the seas and digging graves. Looking to the
> article we read:
>
> "Do u believe consciousness can survive the death of the brain?" he
> writes.
> No, Joe, it can't. Why kid ourselves? These were my answers, not
> Humphrey's."
>
> What a smug answer! Is Broks a dead man who is speaking to us from the
> grave? How could he possibly be so certain? He knows that trees cannot
> experience a sunny day. How? Is he a tree? The man is confronted by the
> great mystery of life and death and all he can offer is smugness and
> certainty. The guy needs to spill some tea from his cup, imo.
>
> Thank you for reading,
>
> Dan
>
> >From: "David M" <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Value of art
> >Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 20:21:46 +0100
> >
> >Platt
> >
> >Thanks too, looks like Nicholas is going down an interesting
> >avenue, not too far removed from our pre-intellect quality.
> >
> >David M
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "MarshaV" <marshalz at charter.net>
> >To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:32 PM
> >Subject: Re: [MD] Value of art
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Platt,
> > >
> > > 'The Mystery of Consciousness' was a great article.  Thanks for
> sharing
> > > it.
> > >
> > > I just started a new painting.  It got me to thinking that each
> > > painting is like a new lover.  And like most new loves, I am having
> > > trouble sleeping for wanting to interact with this new experience.  I
> > > wouldn't trade richer, thinner or more beautiful for one moment of
> > > the painting experience.
> > >
> > > Marsha
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:33 AM 3/30/2007, Platt wrote:
> > >>Hi All,
> > >>
> > >>Once again I find confirmation of my view that the key to
> understanding
> > >>reality (and the MOQ)  is through art. This time it comes from a
> review
> >of
> > >>new book on consciousness by Nicholas Humphrey reviewed by Paul Broks
> in
> > >>Prospect magazine. Broks writes:
> > >>
> > >>"Humphrey recognizes the value of art, in particular that artistic
> >methods
> > >>and media may prove more valuable than ordinary language 'as
> analytical
> > >>tools for exploring the nature of phenomenal experience.'  We can, for
> > >>example, learn from the work of Claude Monet, who was obsessive in his
> > >>quest to capture the qualities of 'present tense experience.' Getting
> > >>one's head around the problem of consciousness, 'experiencing the
> truth'
> > >>of a scientific and philosophical theory, may be as much concern of
> art
> >as
> > >>science. Scientific advances alone may never be enough to satisfy our
> > >>intuitions."
> > >>
> > >>The full article can be found at:
> > >>
> > >>http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=8612
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Platt
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