[MD] Pirsig the Prophet

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Quoting MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>:

> At 04:22 PM 8/19/2007, you wrote:
> >Quoting MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>:
> >
> > > I think I agree that some discipline in the public schools and at
> > > home is beneficial.  But there are other considerations in today's
> > > life that just didn't exist in the Victorian period.  The difference
> > > between then and now is very great. Besides who in the Victorian Age
> > > are you, and Pirsig, discussing.  There are the people represented by
> > > Sargent's paintings.  The wealthy expected their children to be
> > > disciplined, but what of the other classes.  I don't know.  Do you?
> > >
> > > Marsha
> >
> >Hi Marsha,
> >
> >I think its reasonable to assume that by and large the wealthy were 
> >the leaders
> >in Victorian society and that other classes took their behavior cues 
> >from those
> >leaders. So I expect most people accepted discipline as proper. Do you have
> >reason to believe otherwise?
> 
> Hi Platt,
> 
> I think I've heard that wealthy Victorian parents didn't take care of 
> their children at all, but turned them over to governesses and 
> boarding schools.  So if you are still talking about 'spare the rod 
> and spoil the child', I am suspicious.  Were you a well-disciplined, 
> proper little Platt?   Also, since there weren't any child labor 
> laws, I think many a little tyke, from the less fortunate class, 
> found themselves working long hours in dirty factories or the mines.
> 
> Marsha

Hi Marsha, 

Governesses and boarding schools demanded discipline. No? As I wrote, I am
not talking about harsh physical abuse. Do you not believe me? A "proper little
Platt?" Just exactly what do you mean? I was brought up to be polite and respect
others. Weren't you? Is that what you mean? As for child labor laws, the first
were enacted in Victorian England.

Platt
   



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