[MD] Pirsig the Prophet

[MarshaV]

At 08:52 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote:
>Quoting MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>:
>
> > > > HI Platt,
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying that you would try to convince the Establishment that
> > > > 'it takes a village'?
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > >
> > >Hi Marsha,
> > >
> > >No. It takes understanding of the role of the social order in controlling
> > >the ocean of biological quality "by means of prisons and guns 
> and police and
> > >the military." (Lila, 24)
> > >
> > >Platt
> > >
> >
> > Platt,
> >
> > The use of prisons, guns, police and the military has increased since
> > LILA was published.  Has there been an improvement 'in controlling
> > the ocean of biological quality'?
>
>Maybe so but I would like to see some evidence of increased "use."
>
> > Do you still think the
> > Intellectuals are battling social restraints and ignoring biological
> > patterns?
>
>I haven't seen evidence to the contrary.
>
> > Are you suggesting more State control?  How are you
> > interpreting RMP's statement?
>
>I interpret RMP's statement to call for greater enforcement of criminal laws
>and increased discipline of youth (as you've agreed is necessary).
>
> > How would you define the basic and natural state of a human?
>
>Sorry. Don't understand the question. Could you elaborate?
>
> >BTW,
> > which particular biological patterns need to be
> > controlled?  Violence?  Breathing?  Digestion?  Sex?  Dancing?
> > Eating?  Heart rate?
>
>Violence primarily. Also, out of wedlock births.
>
>Platt

Hi Platt,

Okay, you are interpreting RMP as suggesting there should be greater 
enforcement of criminal laws and an increased disciplining of the 
youth, to deter violence and out-of-wedlock births, "by means of 
prisons and guns and police and the military".  And you agree with 
this suggestion.  Right?

Do you think there is anything else that might be done to decrease 
violence and out-of-wedlock births?

Marsha