[MD] Mystics and Brains

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:

> Hi Platt
> 
> >How does consciousness observe itself?

DM: 
> Here's one example. I decide to move my book from a to b,
> I observe this possibility becoming actual, and afterwards I can say: I did 
> that.

Who is doing the observing? (See below)

> > Does your consciousness create the present, or is the present always 
> > already
> > there?
 
> DM: Another example, something flickers at my side, I turn to focus on it,
> yes, here is a bird.

Who is the I that turns and focuses? (See below)

> > Do organisms embody a consciousness that's present in the present?
 
> DM: What is present is present, what is absent is absent.

What is is. More people would be happy if they accepted that. "God grant me
the serenity to accept the things I cannot change . . ."

> DM: When an
> organism is alive it has enourmous potential, but not when it is dead.
> Is this potential present when an organism is alive, depends how you
> want to look at it and use your terminology.

So do you define consciousness as "potential?"

> > Does an organism's pre-conceptual consciousness include evaluation?
 
> DM: I think yes, otherwise there is no awareness. Awareness=taking notice,
> or care.

Yes. This is a key principle of the MOQ.

> > Who is the "I" that knows it's own mind?
 
> DM: How do we find this 'I' that we refer to. As children we struggle
> to understand and make sense of our experience. Adults order
> and explain our experiences for us, we probably believe everything
> we are told. We discover our bodies and the unique relationship
> we have to our own bodies, and then we discover a secret, that
> we have our own understanding and perspective, that we can know
> things that others do not. Hence the joy of hiding things for children.
> This secret should tell us something very important about truth, that
> we all have part of it and none of us all of it. The 'I' is the unique truth
> we all possess.

A fine answer. To put it in my own words, "'I' is our soul, our unique being." 




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