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[MarshaV]

At 02:48 AM 2/11/2007, Bo wrote:
>Hi Marsha .
>
>On 9 Feb.you wrote:
>
> > Bulbs beginning to light up?  Seems to me I'm coming undone.  I've
> > been pacing like a panther for weeks.
>
>It was candles before Edison, by now its LED lights or even
>something more sophisticated. Your problem is smoking and my
>"light up" reminded you, is that so?

Hahaha  Could be.


> > It seems to me the MOQ belongs in the Intellectual Level.  It's an
> > intellectual theory.
>
>In the SOM reality any notion that comes to MIND seems to be
>intellect, the Ancients' notion of lights in the sky as
>gods/goddesses were ancient intellect, the Australian aboriginal
>animist world-view was aboriginal intellect ... etc. this makes
>absolutely every "interpretation of experience" into intellect. But
>this is wrong, intellect is the ability to distinguish between what's
>objective and what's subjective so my dictionary says (with a little
>help) In other words INTELLECT=SOM. Every possible indicator
>point that way.

I'm not seeing the problem.  Intellect is evolving.  Intellect can 
experience subjects and object, and evolve to experiencing 
overlapping patterns of value that are in a constant state of change.

Maybe the simplest thing would be to expand the definition of 
intellect to something far more dynamic.  But remember, intellect 
defining intellect is always going to wrong.  Yes wrong.  How could 
it be otherwise?


>OK, you only said that the MOQ belongs in the intellectual level,
>but if my assertion of intellect=S/O holds, then the MOQ which is
>D/S (dynamic/static) is NOT an intellectual pattern. It began as
>one because Phaedrus knew no intellectual LEVEL level at that
>time, but was so immersed in SOM (as your "mountain view"
>aptly indicates) that he did not see sit. However, after his
>Quality=Reality insight one may call it "limbo"  - not SOM, not
>MOQ - but after the D/S division of Quality the metaphysical leap
>was completed. And looking back on SOM from the MOQ the
>former was suddenly seen as the latter's top static level.

You want S/O thinking to be one level, and the MOQ to be another 
higher level.  That is how it has worked out for you.  Great!   I 
don't get it. I don't see the problem.  If I work the MOQ through my 
own experience, maybe something else will work better for me (and 
those like me).   _I don't like my theories too rigid._  Only if RMP 
decided an adjustment would be helpful, would it make sense.  It's his baby.


>Don't despair, this about rising above intellect is the wisest thing
>said on this site for years. The MOQ is the greatest philosophical
>breakthrough since (fill in) HAD it just been understood, but the
>sage himself failed at the critical point by making it an intellectual
>pattern - an improved intellect. No static level can be improved.
>Its grandeur rests on making SOM its own intellectual level.
>
>IMO

Well Bo, what is wrong with an improved intellect?


Marsha