[MD] the MOQ and its environment

[Heather Perella]

      [Marsha]
> It is stated that Buddhism is a religion of
> no-religion.  Maybe the 
> MOQ is a metaphysics of no-metaphysics.  But of
> course, RMP can set 
> the record straight if he chooses.


     I still wonder what religion is, and what
spirituality is MoQ style.  I understand the MoQ is
mystical, yet, how does spirituality 'fit' into this
toning, this mysticism?  Zen is said to be spiritual,
yet, what does that mean?  I also understand that
dynamic quality has been given much 'credit' for the
spiritual undertones in the MOQ, as well.  Some look
at dq and just say its' this New Age crap.  I wouldn't
mind knowing the difference between New Age crap and
non-crap true MoQ mysticism by those that advocate the
MoQ has been infected by New Age crap.  I know these
are a lot of questions, and questions themselves might
just re-set the wondering that might be right here in
front of me, but these questions do revolve around
current debates that I've seen come and go on this
forum.
     By the way, Marsha, Pirsig did mention the MoQ is
a no-metaphysics, and yet, for the heavy intellectuals
(the one gav was in the post you refer to) don't
always like the bone and marrow, the true blood in our
veins being what a living philosophy is (the one gav
referred to as the guy he was talking to; again from
the post your referring to).

     Many are very familiar with this quote in Lila
(Ch. 5):

     "Quality is indivisible, undefinable and
unknowable in the sense that there is a knower and a
known, but a metaphysics can be none of these things.
A metaphysics must be divisible, definable and
knowable, or there isn't any metaphysics. Since a
metaphysics is essentially a kind of dialectical
definition and since Quality is essentially outside
definition, this means that a 'Metaphysics of Quality'
is essentially a contradiction in terms, a logical
absurdity."

     Isn't static quality, though, the Metaphysics of
the MoQ, and dynamic quality is the Quality of the
MoQ?

thanks.

time to feed the baby,
SA


 
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